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 Post subject: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 7:55 am 

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FIVE (5) CABOOSES AVAILABLE, $2,000 each, from the American Railway Caboose Historical Educational Society (ARCHES). These cabooses must leave ARCHES' property before the end of May, and purchaser must provide transportation. Please call Richard Eichhorst directly (and immediately) if interested: 314-631-3131

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Should this be in Classifieds?
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 8:57 am 

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Two weeks to find buyers and arrange transportation? Good lord.

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Should this be in Classifieds?
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:01 am 

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Rick Rowlands wrote:
Two weeks to find buyers and arrange transportation? Good lord.



My thoughts exactly...

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:20 am 

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So... what are they? Steel? Wood? Road?

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:33 am 

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Please direct your questions to the organization in the request. I got this yesterday and was asked to place it on this site as a means to help the organization. I presume there are underlying issues that we're not aware of.

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:02 pm 

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Link to the organizations web site

http://arches.org/
not much information regarding equipment, annual meeting pictures has some shots of cabin cars but no detail


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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 5:33 pm 

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RDGRAILFAN wrote:
Link to the organizations web site

http://arches.org/
not much information regarding equipment, annual meeting pictures has some shots of cabin cars but no detail

https://www.flickr.com/photos/railroade ... 1792811323

Looks like it is Kirkwood, Missouri (definitely MO, and I did a search on the names listed which all pointed to Kirkwood) in these photos, which may or may not contain the cabooses they are unloading. I see a Missouri-Illinois wood waycar, a BN and a Family Lines steel wide vision, a Frisco steel, and an SP bay window, plus that red thing with the reporting marks painted out, but who knows what they are selling. The M-I car is definitely a rarity.


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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 6:43 pm 

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Someone on AOTT facebook is saying it is these five sitting in Granite City IL, one of which is former CGW:


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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
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If these are the ones I think they are, they had been on Ozarks website for several years until the end of last year.... Nobody was buying at the prices then, so now it's a fire sale?


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PostPosted: Thu May 14, 2020 9:38 pm 

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This isn't a good time to break with tradition. Becoming rational at the last minute is SOP.

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 4:33 am 

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I don't want to stray the topic as time is of the essence if any of these cabeese gets saved, however I googled Granite City, IL and on the southeast side of town (where the cabeese are im supposing) I ran across a railyard packed with all kinds of passenger cars and even what appears to be a complete Zephyr. I wasn't aware all that stuff was stashed there. Does anyone have info on whats all there and why? Here is the yard zoomed in on the Zephyr https://earth.google.com/web/search/Gra ... GZGhmYUlfA


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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 6:46 am 

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That’s Gateway Rail Services, a passenger car rebuilder.

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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 9:59 am 

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Dave wrote:
This isn't a good time to break with tradition. Becoming rational at the last minute is SOP.


Alright - How do we break out of that cycle?


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 Post subject: Re: Available Cabeese - Preservation Emergency!
PostPosted: Fri May 15, 2020 10:15 am 

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To be fair about this:

My understanding of the situation (through some evidence) was that these cabooses ended up in the situation they are in NOT because of the actions of the ARCHES, but rather because of an individual using the name of the society incorrectly, and then having title dumped upon the society by the member.

I have never seen any indication that these cabooses were part of any formal "society" preservation project. There was mention that "the society had several surplus examples for sale," with the phone number and name of the individual in question, in the "Captive Cabeese" listing book.

So, therefore, although the results of the ARCHES may be called into question, the plot like of Ed's "meme" does NOT apply to this situation.


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