Any updates on 1361 at Steamtown USA? Horseshoe Curve NRHS's website is a few months old. Anyone have any current information? Are they within 12 months of completion are is still farther down the road until she gets a fire in her belly again?

Thanks in advance,

Rob Gardner

rtrain@nls.net

It won't be within 12 months. There's too much to do and redo.

superheater@beer.com

> It won't be within 12 months. There's too
> much to do and redo.

I still don't quite understand this "redo" bit.

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jrowlands@neo.rr.com

> I still don't quite understand this
> "redo" bit.

Until more qualified reporters post, let me clarify generally: The tender was damaged during transport to Scranton (by tightening the straps too much and buckling the sides), and many of the boiler rivets recently replaced were (allegedly) done with defective rivet stock.


lner4472@bcpl.net

> Until more qualified reporters post, let me
> clarify generally: The tender was damaged
> during transport to Scranton (by tightening
> the straps too much and buckling the sides),
> and many of the boiler rivets recently
> replaced were (allegedly) done with
> defective rivet stock.

Having come home from a stint in the Scranton shop just about 90 minutes ago, here is the quick update. Two guys were working on the new stoker trough, drilling and reaming holes for rivets. Another gang was working on the mud ring, getting ready to replace a chunk of it across the rear. I was inside the cistern needle scaling so rivets can be burned off Monday. The tender is in very poor condition. The needle scaler punched through the slope sheet twice. Although the tender has been straightened out, a great deal of work will be required to put it back in service. Standing inside, it's almost like being in a planetarium! So many pinholes. The cistern is a patchwork of patches on the floor and around the coal space. The tools boxes on the fronts of the water legs have been removed, and I think the bottom of the water legs will have to be replaced, too. I noted a whole pallet of new rivet stock and another of staybolts, and I believe they are looking for an electric induction furnace to heat the rivets.

K4s1361@hotmail.com

> Until more qualified reporters post, let me
> clarify generally: The tender was damaged
> during transport to Scranton (by tightening
> the straps too much and buckling the sides),
> and many of the boiler rivets recently
> replaced were (allegedly) done with
> defective rivet stock.

OK - once again - the "redo" involves the fact that certified welds had a grinder taken to them after inspection - a complete no-no. Rivets were installed without being heated properly (the stock was not defective)and many other welding issues have to be addressed and redone. This was ALL done prior to the arrival of the crew currently working on the locomotive.

cessvw@cs.com

So what does this all mean? What is left on the boiler? How about the cylinders? How far off the pace does all of this rework set the project?

Thanks in advance,

Rob Gardner

> OK - once again - the "redo"
> involves the fact that certified welds had a
> grinder taken to them after inspection - a
> complete no-no. Rivets were installed
> without being heated properly (the stock was
> not defective)and many other welding issues
> have to be addressed and redone. This was
> ALL done prior to the arrival of the crew
> currently working on the locomotive.


rtrain@nls.net

Do all of these welds have to be redone now because they were ground on? I can't see how that will significantly impair the metal unless alot of stock was removed. How would you go about repairing that anyways? Which welds are bad?

How far will this put the project back and how much money will this cost?

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