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 Post subject: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Wed Jul 17, 2024 4:15 pm 

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The 4th in the series is #2102 but not the engine you may be thinking. This is Lehigh Valley #2102 and seems to be an in-service shot rather than a builders photo.

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Again, Thanks for any info or interest............mld


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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Thu Jul 18, 2024 8:41 am 

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Baldwin 44584 Std 27x28 73” 4-6-2 12/1916 12-48 ¼ -D
Lehigh Valley #2102


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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2024 10:30 pm 

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Interesting. BOTH 2102's (LV K-5 and RDG T-1) have worked passenger on the same line.

Lehigh Valley 2102 was a big engine and had low (73") drivers for a passenger engine. It was best suited for the line between Mauch Chunk (now Jim Thorpe) and Wilkes-Barre. There are stiff grades Eastward from Wilkes-Barre to Glen Summit (1.8%) and Westward from Mauch Chunk to Glen Summit 1.25%). LV's Mountain Cutoff (now RBMN) bypasses W-B and the stiff grade but passenger trains had to serve W-B and had to climb the grade.

LV had the only Camelback Pacifics, but LV 2102 burned bituminous. RDG 2102's firebox was built for an anthracite-bituminous mix in a 2-8-0 (a really BIG 2-8-0), but in a 4-8-4 it was intended to burn bituminous only.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 8:41 am 

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I have (somewhere) an old reading book which states the T hogs were designed to burn "anthracite culm."

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 20, 2024 9:45 pm 

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The Wootten firebox was designed in the 1870's to burn culm, the Northeastern PA term for waste anthracite, called gob or boney in soft coal regions. It has far less BTU's than real coal. Culm has a different meaning in the UK.

The grate area of an 1870's Camelback approached that of a mid-20th Century conventional engine. As engines got bigger, the P&R had advanced to lump anthracite by the 1890's and by the 1920's was mixing anthracite and bituminous depending on the use of the engine. By the late 1930's, RDG was using bituminous only.

Your author may have read that the Camelback was designed to burn culm (correct) and simply assumed that was still the case in 1945 (not so).

As an aside, cogen plants now exist that can burn culm. Some are eating their way through the culm banks in NEPA. After all, the stuff's dirt cheap.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 7:04 am 

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Whatever it was burning, 2102 sure chewed it up and spit it out last month on that route to Tunkhannock. Quite a show from on board.


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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 4:09 pm 

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Thank you Phil. The book was published by the Reading for its engine staff so there's no reason to question it's veracity. I have a lot stored now so can't lay hands on it.

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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 9:26 pm 

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Was the book "Firing the Steam Locomotive" with 2100 on the cover?

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 Post subject: Re: Who Am I #4
PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 7:41 am 

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Might be - I inherited a box of books from a relative who worked for the Reading in engine service.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 9:20 pm 

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OK

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