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 Post subject: Lee-Tidewater Cypress 2-6-2 4 For Sale at WK&S
PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2025 3:49 pm 

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Location: Somewhere east of Prescott, AZ along the old Santa Fe "Prescott & Eastern"
The usual "I have no part of this" disclaimer (I've been trying to post this for two days, but something's been bogging down the RYPN server):

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/it ... 9732093294

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Specifications:
- Built by the Baldwin Locomotive Works in 1914, Serial 41652
- 16x24" cylinders, 180# steam pressure, 44" drivers, 20,400 lbs. tractive effort
- 110,000 lbs engine weight, 83,000 lbs on drivers, tender weight 70,000 lbs loaded

Boiler:
- Extended wagon top, 60" diameter, butt joined with double covering strips.
- No visible boiler repairs except for "consumables, such as the firebox and smokebox.

- Boiler tubes have been removed.

-Most if not all of front tube sheet requires replacement and smokebox needs significant bottom patching or ideally complete replacement.

-Boiler shows pitting and deterioration in anticipated places as would be expected for its age, use and years of storage, all of which seems reasonably repairable, However no ultra sound or other tests have been conducted.

Estimated Physical Size:
-Locomotive: 11' wide, 13' high, 31' long, light weight 55-55 tons.
-Tender: 11' wide, 10' high, 26' long, light weight 20-25 tons.
-NOTE: Cab has been removed and boiler and smokebox are free from all connections with the frame.

This locomotive does not have any [appurtenances] whatsoever, however it is intact as to primary mechanical considerations. Nothing potentially unique to the locomotive or significant, such as pistons, valve motion and side rods, for example, and which would be extremely difficult or costly to replace, is missing. There is no smokestack, however this can be fabricated new rather simply. This is a project locomotive that will require a thorough extensive overhaul to return to service, however the suitable size and corresponding manageable cost that will result in an attractive, basic, operating steamer in spite of what, at first impression, might visibly appear as to overwhelming an undertaking. The locomotive will be sold "as is, where is. If you are planning on restoration we may asked about rebuilding funding and capabilities as it is our sincere desire to see that this locomotive is returned to service and the price will be negotiable.


Photos at listing URL.


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 Post subject: Re: Lee-Tidewater Cypress 2-6-2 4 For Sale at WK&S
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:25 am 

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Maybe 10-15 years ago WK&S had a roster on the web.
It read that about that locomotive:

Steam locomotive #4 is a Baldwin locomotive type 2-6-2 (Prairie), serial number 41652. The locomotive was ordered on July 15, 1914 by the Burton-Swartz Cypress Company of Florida. The locomotive weighs about 109,000 pounds in working order, exclusive of the tender. It was built with a working steam pressure of 180 PSI and has 21,400 pounds of tractive effort. The locomotive has 16"x24" cylinders and 44" drivers. The tender weighs about 70,000 pounds fully loaded. Baldwin referred to #4 as a "Double-Ender" style locomotive, meaning that it was designed to operate in either direction with equal pulling power and stability at speed. This style of locomotive was designed for service in connection with lumbering operations.

Locomotive #4 was originally operated at Perry, Florida hauling logs from the timber areas to a large sawmill. By 1943 the locomotive was moved further south in Florida to Copeland. The company name was changed to Lee Cypress Company and in 1947 became known as Lee Tidewater Cypress Company. In 1958 there was yet another name change to JC Turner Lumber Company. By 1962 the locomotive was already out of service and was sold to F. Nelson Blount of Steamtown. Blount sold #4 to George Silcott in 1968 who then sold it to John Thompson of Monee, Illinois. The locomotive was to become part of a rail operation on the Thompson Winery and was joined by several other locomotives. But #4 never operated at Monee and was sold again in 1998 to the Hardin Southern Railroad of Hardin, Kentucky. The HSRR operated a tourist railroad in western Kentucky for several years and began the rehabilitation of #4. But the work was never completed and the HSRR closed down operations by the mid 2000's. The locomotive was for sale and the WK&S was contacted through a third party about the availability of #4. In December 2007, the locomotive was inspected and subsequently purchased in January 2008. The locomotive was moved to Kempton in May 2008. Currently the locomotive is in the evaluation stages for possible restoration to full service.

Locomotive #4 is a movie star! In 1958, #4 was seen in the movie "Wind Across the Everglades" starring Peter Falk in his motion picture debut. Of course, in the movie the engine is renamed and renumbered, but at the 1:45 point if you slow and stop the clip you can make out the 4 on the side of the engine and the rear of the tender. You can watch the movie clip. (dead link)


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 Post subject: Re: Lee-Tidewater Cypress 2-6-2 4 For Sale at WK&S
PostPosted: Wed Jul 16, 2025 12:46 am 

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For anyone interested here are the

Baldwin "vitals" from 1914 for this locomotive:

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