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 Post subject: Juneau Porter
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 9:28 am 

Scroll down on the page below for a tiny Porter 0-4-0T displayed at Juneau, Alaska. Was apparently found abandoned. I haven't seen this one before.

http://www.daylightimages.com/trackside/arr4.html
ryarger@rypn.org


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Juneau Porter
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 10:57 am 

> Scroll down on the page below for a tiny
> Porter 0-4-0T displayed at Juneau, Alaska.
> Was apparently found abandoned. I haven't
> seen this one before.

I'm pretty sure that the locomotive in the link below is the one in Steve's photo, from before it was restored.

Also see the following link:

http://www.fairnet.org/agencies/tvrr/tvrr.html

Regards,
Doug



Alaska Railroad 0-4-0T No. 1
dougb@sunserver.com


  
 
 Post subject: Nope.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:31 pm 

No, the Kensington Mine locomotive is an H.K. Porter from 1883, and is still on display at Miner's Plaza, Downtown Juneau, AK. It is also pictured on my "Surviving World Steam Locomotive" CD-ROM.

The one at Fairbanks is H.K. Porter 1972/1899.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

> I'm pretty sure that the locomotive in the
> link below is the one in Steve's photo, from
> before it was restored.

> Also see the following link:

>
> http://www.fairnet.org/agencies/tvrr/tvrr.html

> Regards,
> Doug


Surviving World Steam Locomotives
james@survivingworldsteam.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Juneau Porter *PIC*
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 1:35 pm 

> I'm pretty sure that the locomotive in the
> link below is the one in Steve's photo, from
> before it was restored.
> Regards,
> Doug

Doug is correct. This is one of 7 surviving Yukon mining railway Porters imported into the Yukon on the WP&YR in ca.1903. They were used in mines around Dawson City. Steve's webpage is a bit incorrect on the pre Fairbanks history. This data is from Eric Johnson's "Bonanza Narrow Gauge Railway"

Image
mike211@yknet.ca


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Nope.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 2:03 pm 

Take a look at the cylinder saddle, it looks like it was fabricated for display. I don't think that one is going to run without a major cash infusion.

Roger

> No, the Kensington Mine locomotive is an
> H.K. Porter from 1883, and is still on
> display at Miner's Plaza, Downtown Juneau,
> AK. It is also pictured on my
> "Surviving World Steam Locomotive"
> CD-ROM.

> The one at Fairbanks is H.K. Porter
> 1972/1899.

> -James Hefner
> Hebrews 10:20a


belpaire@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Juneau Porter
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 3:03 pm 

"Narrow Gauge and Short Line Gazette" had a write-up on the NAT&T Co. sometime in '02 or '03. Interesting little railroad - the line was about 1.75 miles long on a nearly-continuous 6% grade. No air on the lokie either, they pushed empty skips up the hill and came down on the engine's armstrong brake with miners riding some of the skips to run the hand brakes........real he-man railroading.......
J

jeff_acock@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Nope.
PostPosted: Fri Jan 16, 2004 4:05 pm 

> No, the Kensington Mine locomotive is an
> H.K. Porter from 1883, and is still on
> display at Miner's Plaza, Downtown Juneau,
> AK. It is also pictured on my
> "Surviving World Steam Locomotive"
> CD-ROM.

Mr. Hefner is indeed correct, and I'm in error. Steve Barry photographed that little critter in 2001, and it clearly wasn't in two places at once. I've added it to our database as well, with Steve's picture to illustrate it, with his permission.

Doug


U.S. Navy 0-4-0 No. 9
dougb@sunserver.com


  
 
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