Assuming the scrapyard locomotives at Roanoke will be saved eventually, can anyone identify possible spare tenders in North America that might be suitable for placement behind them? If not, would something from China be suitable, or possibly, like this one behind a Korean Mikado?

Korean Mikado
ryarger1@nycap.rr.com

While I don't know of any tenders personally. An idea that might work is that if spare tenders are found do a job like the North Carolina Transportation Museum did with ex ACL 4-6-0 1031. They took the old tender from ex Buffalo Creek and Gauley 2-8-0 604 which had a new larger tender constructed and altered it's appearence to more closely resemble the original tender which was too far gone after spending years in Florence, South Carolina. That would probably work cosmetically atleast.

stiggy_26@hotmail.com

> Assuming the scrapyard locomotives at
> Roanoke will be saved eventually, can anyone
> identify possible spare tenders in North
> America that might be suitable for placement
> behind them? If not, would something from
> China be suitable, or possibly, like this
> one behind a Korean Mikado?

China would probably be a good source for cheap tenders that could be modified to a more accurate appearance. Aside from that, there's a spare tender from a former Rockton & Rion engine (2-8-2 or 2-8-0) at the former Martin-Marietta Quarry in Rion, SC, adjacent to ex-R&R, former ACL 2-8-0 #712. It's probably about right for any of the N&W engines, or it could be modified if necessary. I don't know what the present asking price is. You may be able to find a photo of the tender at the South Carolina Railway Museum webpage.


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whodom@awod.com

Good question!

Assuming if (and a big IF) they were saved, I would suspect there are tenders out there in MOW service. I photographed a former IC tank on the Gateway Western in Mexico Missouri a few years ago.

They are out there, we would just have to find them....we have lists of all of the surviving steam engines, domes, etc, out there, maybe a list of tenders?

Regards,
John Lewis
(aka Burlington John)

CBQJohn@msn.com

I found a picture in an N&W book that has a picture of an M class with a tender simialar to the ones in the scrap yard of coures it had a higher coal bunker on it.

another idea is the locomotives in Gault have one spare tender it is an oil tender from what I can tell but it is still a start.

and I really don't see how it could be to hard to build one from a flat car if you could make the engine end of it

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Onesteam@fiberia.com

Doesn't the Minnesota Transportation Museum have a bunch of ex-Soo tenders?

> Assuming the scrapyard locomotives at
> Roanoke will be saved eventually, can anyone
> identify possible spare tenders in North
> America that might be suitable for placement
> behind them? If not, would something from
> China be suitable, or possibly, like this
> one behind a Korean Mikado?
Having seen the restoration of the Barry Scrapyard engines, the tender question is easy. Why has not a steam operator aquired one or more of these engines? Why does America lag behind England and Europe? The Barry rescue story can be repeated in America; yet we rise to the challenge?
What is missing?

Meksraitis@aol.com

> Having seen the restoration of the Barry
> Scrapyard engines, the tender question is
> easy. Why has not a steam operator aquired
> one or more of these engines? Why does
> America lag behind England and Europe? The
> Barry rescue story can be repeated in
> America; yet we rise to the challenge?
> What is missing?

A cultural, economic and political imperative to preserve and interpret industrial heritage.

Dave


lathro19@idt.net

Dave is so right! But in the United Kingdom they also have the Heritage Lottery. It makes grants in four areas: Culture, things like dance groups, little Theatre, or non-professional opera.

Sports, the equivilant of our Little League sports, over there called Sports Clubs.

I forget the third catagory.

Historic Preservation, the one of interest to this group. They have helped museums related to Ships, trains, military groups, and of course historic buildings of all kinds.

It is too bad that our Federal Government does not do any of this sort of work. And with the next four years of George W. I don't see it likely to change!

By the way, the Barry Scrapyard save took place before the Heritiage Lottery, it would have been much easier today. Ted miles


AMILES1060@aol.com

> It is too bad that our Federal Government
> does not do any of this sort of work. And
> with the next four years of George W. I
> don't see it likely to change!

Our federal government has been quite generous in supporting preservation with the ISTEA and TEA 21 programs. Unfortunately that is likely to change with the monster tax cut and attempts to maintain entitlement programs at the same time.

dwshearer@aol.com

> Assuming the scrapyard locomotives at
> Roanoke will be saved eventually, can anyone
> identify possible spare tenders in North
> America that might be suitable for placement
> behind them? If not, would something from
> China be suitable, or possibly, like this
> one behind a Korean Mikado?

Tenders can be easily built. The Knox & Kane had a new tender built a few years ago for H&BT #38, and the Huckleberry was going to build a new tank on the original frame for their D&RG locomotive. Any good fabricator could whip one up.


nic-damore@penn.com