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 Post subject: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:51 pm 

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Last day of operations for this Wisconsin tourist line, in 2001:

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 721&nseq=5
http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 726&nseq=2

Both engines saw their last revenue service in Idaho, No. 3 on the Craig Mountain Railway, and No. 9 on the Nezperce Railroad. The rails of those two lines, plus the Kettle Moraine are all now gone.


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 Post subject: Re: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:57 am 

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Where is #3 and #9 today?

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 Post subject: Re: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 8:10 am 

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Robin Warren wrote:
Where is #3 and #9 today?


National RR Museum in Green Bay.

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 Post subject: Re: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 9:53 am 

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Are either of them still in operable condition?

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 Post subject: Re: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:55 pm 

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I'm sure there is a thread here somewhere, but what about the passenger equipment. Did the cars also go to Green Bay or were they parceled out to several entities who bought the cars individually?

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 12:57 pm 

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I spotted their combine at the Santa Fe Southern in 2004.


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:04 pm 

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The 2-6-2 is still at North Lake. The Heisler is at Green Bay. Neither has operated since I've been here (3 years come October 27!)

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:05 pm 

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I never saw the Kettle Moraine operation personally, but from the photo posted by Bob they don't appear to be the usual ex-DL&W/EL commuter cars. The clerestory seems higher than the commuter cars I've seen in photos of on so many operations. Even the New Georgia Railroad used a pair acquired with the Hartwell RR equipment when they were getting started. I wonder what happened to those two cars?

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:18 pm 

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jimwrinn wrote:
The 2-6-2 is still at North Lake. The Heisler is at Green Bay. Neither has operated since I've been here (3 years come October 27!)

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I managed to finally ride the KM on its last day of operation. The ride was quite good and it made me sad that I had not gone up there many more times to enjoy the operation.

Surprised to hear that Prairie #9 is still at North Lake. I thought she had been sold (or donated) to someone. She is really quite a nice locomotive.

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 1:29 pm 

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You have to make the distinction between the DL&W cars built for steam train service (the so called Boonton cars) and the former electric MU cars. Some of the later may have been trailers, others have been demotored; all have the squished clerestory.

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"Boonton" car at MCRM

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MU trailer a t Osceola & St. Croix Valley (MTM)



I recall the Heisler running around the loop at Green Bay at least one summer. . . '02? . . . '03? I haven't been back up there since.

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 Post subject: Re: Last Day of the Kettle Moraine
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 6:26 pm 

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The Colfax RR Museum got the remnants of the GN Barney & Smith car. You could shake the metal sides, it was so rotten. We're using the parts for restoring two other cars we have. The Milwaukee Barney & Smith car was still there in Feb '06 along with a CB&Q coach. The business car had been sold and moved, I believe the prior summer/fall. The open side excursion cars were still there too.

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:42 pm 

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There are two KM coaches (DL&W "Boonton" cars) at Green Bay, however neither happened to be in use when I visited four days ago. The one car "train" had a different coach, origins unknown to me, which appeared to have been modified with a large open vestibule on one end to facilitate handicap access.

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 10:24 pm 

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Alan Maples wrote:
There are two KM coaches (DL&W "Boonton" cars) at Green Bay, however neither happened to be in use when I visited four days ago. The one car "train" had a different coach, origins unknown to me, which appeared to have been modified with a large open vestibule on one end to facilitate handicap access.

Alan Maples


Alan -

And the motive power of the train was..........?

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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 12:02 am 

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That combine and another coach were actually butchered CNJ cars...vestibles cut "open" to blend in with the actual DL&W coach(s) they had.

Two cars ended up on SFS...the combine and a coach.


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 Post subject: Re: Kettle cars
PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 10:26 am 

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Les Beckman wrote:
Alan -

And the motive power of the train was..........?

Les


Les, it was an Alco switcher painted orange, and not being an expert on Alco switchers, that's all I can tell you about it.

Alan Maples


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