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 Post subject: Renewing Chalky Faded Paint
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:43 am 

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:15 am 

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Kelly,

Wow, that's quite a difference. Looks really nice. Couple questions: Is that process removing the oxidation or masking/sealing it kinda like Armor All? What kind of paint is on the car? We have a locomotive with oxidized Imron on it that could certainly use a treatment like that. I can attest that it's tough stuff. We've tried buffing it but the paint isn't very smooth, like orange peel, and would take a year of Sundays and gallons of rubbing compound to get it to look splotchy at best.

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:30 am 

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I recall reading that the Pullman Company regularly "oiled" their cars between repaints, to restore gloss, the "oil" being linseed oil. Sounds like about the same process.

Looks nice, and doesn't leave materials on the surface (like waxes) that will interfere with future repaints.

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Fri Apr 28, 2017 10:26 pm 

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It sure looks a lot better! One word of caution, Linseed oil on rags is highly prone to spontaneous combustion. Use proper care of rags and waste when ever working with linseed oil.

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 12:13 am 

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Kelly -

In the procedure you listed, how long did this take? Was it all done in one day? Also, spraying the formula at the end; spraying with what and how heavy?

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 7:03 am 
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That's impressive!

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 9:38 am 

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Les Beckman wrote:
Kelly -

In the procedure you listed, how long did this take? Was it all done in one day? Also, spraying the formula at the end; spraying with what and how heavy?

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Les


Les.....under each photo, Kelly includes the time of day, for the before and after.


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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 10:52 pm 

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junior -

Thanks. I had missed that bit of info.


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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sat Apr 29, 2017 11:09 pm 

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I find linseed oil to sticky for a long time. Is the linseed oil soap also sticky?


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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Sun Apr 30, 2017 5:33 pm 

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Kelly -

A couple of additional questions:

Done in one morning. One person? Two? More?

"2 - 3 oz. of boric acid". Is that 2/3rd of an ounce of boric acid or two 3 oz. containers of boric acid or 2 to 3 ounces of boric acid?

We are considering giving this a try on our Pullman troop sleeper, but I want to make sure we have everything right.

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
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Okay Kelly, thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 2:40 pm 

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Is the linseed oil soap also sticky?


The soap isn't sticky at all, it's just - soapy. Washes of rather easily with water.

More on what Kelly said - the 'boiled' linseed oil you buy in hardware stores isn't really boiled much, if at all. It's chemically treated to act like boiled but falls short. Allback boiled linseed is actually boiled just like in the old days. Way better product IMHO. Falls into the 'you get what you pay for' category.

Kelly - without looking back at old posts, are you using linseed paints/varnish on the coaches?

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 Post subject: Re: Meanwhile, out on the platform...
PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 4:07 pm 

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It's a shame that Allback wants to be able to advertise that they are "green", so they don't put any mildewcide in their products. It appears the soap and boric acid wash is an attempt to add some after the fact, but note you have to supply your own, which keeps their hands clean for the European market, I guess.

I wonder if boric acid can just be blended into the neat oil? Years ago I'm sure there was enough heavy metal added to either the oil or drier than mildew wasn't a problem.

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