The rust pile formerly known as 4960’s tender was scrapped years ago while I was working there. At least they did not cut up the booster from 29 at that time.

I believe the reason for the SOO tender can be found if you look at heading east or west from Williams by rail. There were some hope of doing some off property runs and the Soo line tender was apart of those plans.

Robby Peartree

To back up Tom’s point about water consumption on GCR with 4960. During the time I worked there, as a road crew member and I was firing that day, I typically left Williams with about 17000 gallons in the tender. When 4960 arrived at the canyon, it typically had 7000 left with a tonnage train. I had ran the continuous blow down the entire trip. So a trip to the Canyon would run about 10,000 gallons without a hiccup from any source. For the record, the SOO line tender holds 18000 gallons of water. A larger tender was a necessity.

Robby Peartree

The SP&S 700 uses an auxiliary tender from the Great Northern Railway's first S2 class Northern, the 2575. the Tender came pretty close to being scraped when Union Pacific tore down the Brooklyn Roundhouse in Portland, Ore. however the crew managed to put it back together before the deadline and shipped it out along with the other railroad equipment and turntable.

http://www.sps700.org/rollingstock/auxtender.shtml


pic from sp&s 700 webiste

The 4449 uses an Auxiliary tender #4219, originally Built as a tender to Southern Pacific's AC-10 class 4-8-8-2 cab-forward steam locomotive #4219, it was later used to provide water for the rotary snow plows, and for fire-fighting service in the remote areas of the railroad.

http://www.4449.com/roster.html


pic from personal collection

I hope this one's not too much of a stretch...back in the late 60's, there was a small CPR tender sitting in the engine house at Duncan on Vancouver Island.

I'd be a little surprised if it was scrapped at that late of a date. I did get a slide of it and was told that it was there for fire duty.

Canadian National Fire Tender #52147 lives at the New Brunswick Railway Museum in Hillsborough, NB. This Vanderbilt tender was formerly used by CNR Northern #6173:

http://www.pro.rcip-chin.gc.ca/bd-dl/artefacts-eng.jsp?emu=en.artefacts:/Proxac/ws/human/user/www/Record;jsessionid=j09bcw0v23&upp=0&m=9&w=NATIVE%28%27INSNAME%20EQ%20%27%27NEW%20BRUNSWICK%20RAILWAY%20MUSEUM%27%27%20and%20image%20=%20%27%27X%27%27%27%29

Steve Hunter

Steve, thanks for sharing that. 6173 is of course a sister of 6167 (and the same class as well!)

I received an e-mail from Dean Levin today with some photos of a tender owned by the Louisiana Steam Train Association (LASTA) looking rather sad. I recalled this thread and wondered if this particular tender had perhaps been mentioned. It was interesting reading some of the comments on that thread (with some questions remaining unanswered) but it appears that this LASTA tender was never brought up. It rides on a set of 6 wheel trucks and looks like it came off of a larger engine. The trucks may be Commonwealth, although I am far from an expert. I tried to find a website on the internet that might have had an equipment list, but had no luck. Anyway, does anyone know the railroad and locomotive type that this tender came from?

Thanks for any insights.

Les

Les

Here are the photographs .. for the forums benefit


Dean

For a second there, I was all excited when I thought that was an EIGHT-wheel Commonwealth truck. AFAIK, those were used on only one set of tenders, the Atlantic Coast Line's R-1 4-8-4's. Some of those tenders outlasted the locomotives; the N&W acquired 8 (?) of them for their Y-4 2-8-8-2's when the R-1's were scrapped. Too bad at least one of their tenders didn't make it into preservation.

Speaking of surviving Steam loco Tenders here's couple I know of.

http://photos.greatrails.net/showpic/?p ... 20Railroad

http://www.trainweb.org/wnyrhs/4483Frame1Source1.htm

I know of these due to having grown up in HAMBURG,NY, the links are for info and other photo's.

Mr.Starr

What ever happened to 765's aux. tender she trailed up until she went down for an overhaul in 1993?

Being worked on to hit the road with her again!

So now let me ask how many aux. tenders does VMT have. I saw in the NS steam 25th anniversary video that 611 and 1218 both had the black n&w water tenders, then 611 got the all tuscan one in 1994 that ended up with 261, what happened to the other two? I know the tuscan stripe one went to nkp 587. What about the other two? and what color will 611's be painted once she is restored (black with N&W lettering, tuscan stripe 1982-1989, or all tuscan 1994 version)

Active UP Water Cars:

1. UPP* #809 was built in 1937 as tender 20-C-101 and was last used with Class FEF-1 4-8-4 Northern #816, which was retired in 1957. Tender 20-C-101 was converted to GTEL tender 24-GTE-16 in 1960, which was in turn converted to water car #907856 in 1972. #907856 was moved to Cheyenne in 1989, and was renumbered to #809 in 2003. #809 was named Jim Adams in 2008.

2. UPP* #814 was built in 1937 as tender 20-C-214 and was last used with Class FEF-1 4-8-4 Northern #807, which was retired in 1956. Tender 20-C-214 was converted to GTEL tender 24-GTE-14 in 1957, which was in turn converted to water car #907857 in 1972. #907857 was moved to Cheyenne in 1989, and was renumbered to #814 in 2003. #814 was named Joe Jordan in 2006.

*UPP is the reporting mark for Union Pacific Passenger.

Another Surviving UP Tender:

UP #907853 was built in 1937 as tender 20-C-213 and was last used with Class FEF-1 4-8-4 Northern #804, which was retired in 1959. Tender 20-C-213 was converted to GTEL tender 24-GTE-13, which was in turn converted to water car #907853. #907853 was used with the #844 in 1974, and SP #4449 in 1977. #907853 was donated to the Kansas Railroad Museum in 1984, and is now at IRM with GTEL #18.

Source:

1. Information on the above tenders from Don Strack's Utah Rails website: http://utahrails.net/pass/water-cars.php

Does anyone have a picture of 611's fully tuscan water tender, I am looking to make an HO model of it and could not find a length wise picture so any links or posted pictures would be a great help.