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 Post subject: Re: When is a wood constructed car too far gone?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 5:09 pm 

> This probably sounds more discouraging than
> I intended. Sorry.

Sometimes the truth hurts.

richard.s.wilkens@boeing.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: When is a wood constructed car too far gone?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 5:20 pm 

Precisely!
Now that you've looked at it, and asessed the "damage" you, undoubtedly having done considerable restoration work in the past, are now able to see the amount of work required to fix what you have seen. This means, in real english, remanufacture. Now, double your estimate and you are getting close. Is it still worth it to you? it's not to most people, and that's why that stuff is sitting around. It will take a person with a rare sense of dedication to take the project to completion. Mark D.

mnmach@lakes.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Conway/New England Wood
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 5:37 pm 

Speaking of the litter of historic equipment across NE, I wonder if anyone can try to preserve the intact but falling apart B&M wood coach at a body shop in Tyngsboro, MA. It was posted on ebay at one time - asking far more than its worth. The owner must be oblivious to actual rail car sales.


  
 
 Post subject: Re: CRR&BCo #2
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 6:11 pm 

Sorry Les, it is a coach converted circa 1889 to a superintendents inspection car.

Dave

irondave@bellsouth.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: When is a wood constructed car too far gone?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 6:17 pm 

> That sure became complex. A simple answer,
> it seems to me anyway, would be; It is too
> far gone when what you visualize as the
> finished product will require more expended
> capital and energy than you are willing or
> able to invest. Mark D.

This version is dependent on one persons opinion. The same car may be meaningful to others and less meaningful to you. Too far gone is therefore entirely subjective for all practical purposes.

Example, we turned down one of the Steamtown hulks but if it had been an original Central of Georgia Jim Crow combine splinter we would have taken it.

Dave



irondave@bellsouth.net


  
 
 Post subject: Midwest Old Threshers And Settlers site URL
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 7:58 pm 

http://www.oldthreshers.org/

Midwest Old Threshers And Settlers site URL
bilburns1313@ameritech.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: When is a wood constructed car too far gone?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 9:06 pm 

Some comments:

1. There have been some major restorations (or even reconstructions). Besides some of the work done at the electric railway museums look at the work that was done at the cars from the 19th century that are in the collection of the California and Nevada State Railroad Museums.

2. If you look closely, the work that the Strasburg Rail Road has done is not the same as done 100 years ago. They have made use of plywood where it cannot be seen and also laminated beams. They are doing wooden cars with modern wood technicques. This is good for tourist railroading.

3. As Glen G. has done very good work and as he is reported to say anything can be consturcted. From what I've seen he goes for the traditional methods of construction. This is good for museums, historic structures and the like.

Brian Norden

bnorden@gateway.net


  
 
 Post subject: Going,going,going...
PostPosted: Fri Jul 13, 2001 10:30 pm 

I took a short walk this afternoon down the tracks to have another look at the car I'd posted about. Sometime since my last visit about a month ago, the car had been severly vandalized. It looks like someone climbed up onto the roof and proceeded to completely kick in what was left of it. Now the entire roof is gone.
Sad,very sad.

Brian Hebert


Conway Scenic Railroad
btamper@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Going,going,going...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 7:34 am 

Brian, that is very sad to hear,
is that car located on a siding on the left as you
enter Bartlett going north? If so, Isn't there an abandoned roundhouse up there (in Bartlett)? Does Conway Scenic have anything to do with that? Seems like a good space to store future restorations.
Steve


shootpix@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Going,going,going...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 7:38 am 

Brian, that is very sad to hear...
is that car located on a siding on the left as you
enter Bartlett going north? If so, Isn't there an abandoned roundhouse up there (in Bartlett)? Does Conway Scenic have anything to do with that? Seems like a good space to store future restorations.
Steve


shootpix@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Going,going,going...
PostPosted: Sat Jul 14, 2001 8:40 am 

> Brian, that is very sad to hear...
> is that car located on a siding on the left
> as you
> enter Bartlett going north? If so, Isn't
> there an abandoned roundhouse up there (in
> Bartlett)? Does Conway Scenic have anything
> to do with that? Seems like a good space to
> store future restorations.
> Steve

Yes Stephen, This is the same car you have seen.It sits coupled to an ex-Maine Central wooden boxcar,and a boxcar frame.
The roundhouse/enginehouse is owned by the State of New Hampshire.The line is also owned by NH, but is leased to the CSRR.At the moment, the CSRR has no plans to use the structure, and it is falling apart as much as some of the local wooden cars. I'm with you on the idea that it would make an ideal shop to work on many projects.

Brian Hebert


Conway Scenic Railroad
btamper@hotmail.com


  
 
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