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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 1:55 am 

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I wonder if this is the New Haven 2-6-0 # 187 en-route to scrapping in Weirton W VA that was set out in transit to be saved by Nelson Blount? Due to improper clearance paper work and bill of lading it never made it to North Walpole. Too bad it didn't wind up in the collection ........... :)


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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:22 am 

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I know Uxbridge is way further south... But whatever happened to the gaggle of B&M wooden caboose bodies at the Fletcher Quarry? (this is the place the two preserved B&M 0-6-0's came out of)

The quarry used a slew of cabooses as sheds and huts around the property.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:01 am 

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It could very well be a "lost" engine, look at the steam engine that was recently rescued from private land in Andover, NJ a few months ago. Few people knew about that one.

Hopefully someone can check into this further. Also if you can't make it out there soon try having your cousin go to rrpictures.net or rrpicturearchives and find a pic of something similar, it may help solve if it's actually an engine or a tank car.

Well, I'm planning to go take a look sometime soon. Based on the picture, that's the housing development. If that's the correct location, then the clearing is north of there. It was a granite quarry, so there will be the different pits filled with water.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:02 am 

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sbhunterca wrote:
OK, what is the big rusty thing near the white van, in the shade of the trees?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=uxbridge+massachusetts&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Uxbridge,+Worcester,+Massachusetts,+United+States&gl=ca&ll=42.037593,-71.515892&spn=0.000717,0.001635&t=h&z=20

It's definitely at a quarry, is about the right size for a small tender locomotive and if you squint "just so" it might look like one. No tracks visible, but they could be gone or buried... OR... it may just be a rusty piece of quarry equipment.



That can't be the right location. First off, that's a new housing development, not a quarry. The two things in the shade are either vans or pick up trucks... smart guys park on the shady side of the road, only the boss parks in the sun.

I can't find any reference to "Quarry Hill" on either Google Maps or Bing, so I guess we need better directions.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 11:04 am 

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Dennis Storzek wrote:
sbhunterca wrote:
OK, what is the big rusty thing near the white van, in the shade of the trees?

http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=uxbridge+massachusetts&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Uxbridge,+Worcester,+Massachusetts,+United+States&gl=ca&ll=42.037593,-71.515892&spn=0.000717,0.001635&t=h&z=20

It's definitely at a quarry, is about the right size for a small tender locomotive and if you squint "just so" it might look like one. No tracks visible, but they could be gone or buried... OR... it may just be a rusty piece of quarry equipment.



That can't be the right location. First off, that's a new housing development, not a quarry. The two things in the shade are either vans or pick up trucks... smart guys park on the shady side of the road, only the boss parks in the sun.


I can't find any reference to "Quarry Hill" on either Google Maps or Bing, so I guess we need better directions.

The quarry is part of the Linwood Historic District. Here's the location on google maps. Basically in that general area.
http://maps.google.ca/maps?hl=en&q=uxbr ... 5&t=h&z=20

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:18 pm 
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MEC_557 wrote:
It could very well be a "lost" engine, look at the steam engine that was recently rescued from private land in Andover, NJ a few months ago. Few people knew about that one.


Someone sent me pictures of a steam locomotive, complete with a picture of the namplate, that was found in a warehouse in Phillidelphia. It most definitely was not in Conrad's book; or any other lists I have seen.

So yes, I am sure there are other finds out there waiting to be discovered. I have heard of several in the swamps and woods in Louisiana; waiting to be rediscovered.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 2:28 pm 

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I found it on Google maps. From the look of the area, something of a railroad could be hidden back there, but the neighboring property is pretty well developed with homes. I'm certain word would have gotten out by now. You can't keep a group of 12 year old boys from exploring such a target rich area.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 3:26 pm 

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I found it! I found it! Six of 'em!

I find that the Bing.com "Birds eye view" is pretty useful in the "show angled view" mode... it does a good job of stitching the available aerial views together. Of course, I have no idea how to create a link to the view I'm looking at, but at the intersection of Main and Spencer in the Linnwood Historic District is an outfit that appears to repair, maintain, and scrap highway trailers... including tank trailers and dry powder hoppers. That's got to be it. Different views show different numbers of dead tanks in the trees along the river, behind some houses...

Twenty days late for April Fools Day.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:17 pm 

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What Dennis found could well be it, but...

Never mind that, let's hear more about this warehouse find in Philadelphia!

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:26 pm 

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Richard Glueck wrote:
I found it on Google maps. From the look of the area, something of a railroad could be hidden back there, but the neighboring property is pretty well developed with homes. I'm certain word would have gotten out by now. You can't keep a group of 12 year old boys from exploring such a target rich area.

Well, it should still be there. It's one someone's land, and seeing it's abandon, it's the landowner's property. That and the housing development isn't near Rivulet Street, which is near the artifact site. There is also the fact that neither my cousin or his friend are even remotely close to being railfans. Life can be considered numerous flukes.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:47 pm 
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Never mind that, let's hear more about this warehouse find in Philadelphia!


It is H.K. Porter 7032/1926. It is a 3 foot gauge 0-4-0T owned by Levinos Shipping. It is my understanding the warehouse is dockside, and the locomotive is thought to have been used to shuffle freight cars around the dock.

The pictures are dark, but it appears to be in excellent shape. It appears to have an open cab that only extands up to about waist height.

It is supposed to go to the Independence Seaport Museum; same organization that has the U.S.S. Olympia. There is a picture of it on the Surviving World Steam Locomotive CD; and multiple pictures in the Photo section of the Steam Lizards Group on Yahoo.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:42 pm 

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rjenkins wrote:
Never mind that, let's hear more about this warehouse find in Philadelphia!

It is supposed to go to the Independence Seaport Museum; same organization that has the U.S.S. Olympia.

What's the Olympia? Is it one of those old ships in the Philly shipyard? I saw a whole fleet of some mothballed ships in Philly on my way back from DC a few years ago.

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:28 pm 

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Mike LaBouliere wrote:
I wonder if this is the New Haven 2-6-0 # 187 en-route to scrapping in Weirton W VA that was set out in transit to be saved by Nelson Blount? Due to improper clearance paper work and bill of lading it never made it to North Walpole. Too bad it didn't wind up in the collection ........... :)

As I've said many times, nothing is impossible! So, it get lost in transit?

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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 9:34 pm 

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Uxbridge isn't exactly the middle of nowhere, but neither is the Westby Farm where the NJ mystery Porter was found. The Quarry Hill area does have residential housing, but who knows? I have been shown things in PA the past 5 years that I swore couldn't be. Like clockwork every 10 years or so someone pulls something out of a culm bank or finds so,ethnic stashed in a mine.

MA seems to be home to a lot of relics I am told exist, but cannot confirm. The supposed wooden B&M milk car near Williamstown is one I still hope is true, but I doubt it.

This thread is nice for the rumor mill, and it will stay there until Daylight gets in the woods and comes back with proof.

Of course, there are many industrial steam locomotives we all know of that need love they aren't getting, so should we hope for more?



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 Post subject: Re: Artifacts of the past: Abandon steam locomotive in Uxbri
PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:39 am 

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Well, a railroad did run to the southeast of the quarry area (you can see the fill across Harris Pond). The line crosses the Southern New England Trunk Trail (which screams being a former railroad bed) before continuing southeast to eventually connect with live rail at Route 122 in Woonsocket. The line goes north and dead ends some miles north--no doubt a spur could have gone into the site, though there's not much evidence of it anymore.

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