Actually the story went they put #60 on the portable scale and broke it. The fines were in excess of $30,000 in 1985 money. I think some settlement was worked out for a lesser amount.

The Penn View loco (#8) is now at Steamtown, cut into sectional display....which would actually be a good option for the 60, somewhere (RRMPA?).

The W&W had this loco, for years, stored at the Hercules siding, in the weeds "out of sight out of mind". It was acquired during the years of then managements "lets get our hands on as much as we can" days. There was never any talk then of restoring it to operation, nor has there been any talk any time recently. Of the equipment acquired during the 80s, I would have sooner seen the BC&G 14 restored to operation on the W&W, than the 60, if either was to be. (14 was discussed, but it was too heavy at the time for the wooden bridges).

After Mr. Minker died (he was a BOD member of HRCV and also built the brick freight station which the 60 sits along side as his construction business office) everything as stated, went to his estate. I don't foresee the life of this loco lasting much longer. I wouldn't be surprised to see it donning a for sale sign soon, or donated back to the W&W, which would not seal its safety, since it does not fit the RR's needs. Remember, they just scrapped 4 PRR MP-54s that came from Avondale with the 58, after no buyer was found.

I've personally never found this class to be attractive.

I don't see it in operation at any time. Cosmetically restoring it into full PRR regalia would be a terrific contribution, if only as a lawn ornament at RMPA. I don't see butchering it as a cut-away display, even though that could be a use. Taking her apart and shipping her to the state museum seems like good idea, assuming they would be interested in fixing up a basket case display piece, after all, she is representative of a unique class of the mother road.

I'm certain it hasn't been lost on others that she is the model locomotive represented by the Mantua/Tyco 0-4-0 and 0-6-0 H-O gauge switchers many of us had or have.

Ok, so no cut out, but how about...

-assuming, lets say, it would go to the RRMPA - since it is darn near in the "completely disassembled state", why not incorporate it into a diorama of a locomotive being worked on in a shop setting, like happened any many shops on the PRR....It would be the easiest, cheapest and simplest thing to do with the 60 and offer an insight into the behind the scenes scene of a "working" locomotive, verses a stuffed and pretty painted loco?

Just a thought...

Junior - Not a bad idea. Here's another one. Make the diorama (of necessity it would have to be indoors) with the cab number white-lined and coupled to the remains of another FAKE tender partially cut and with a figure or two of scrap yard workers "doing their thing". A bit of "junk" laying around. Maybe a background photo of a boneyard. Number 60 is obviously the next one to go, her story about to end. But of course, the scrappers never quite get to her! This representation too (unfortunately) is also part of the steam locomotive story.

Les

[quote="junior"] since it is darn near in the "completely disassembled state", why not incorporate it into a diorama of a locomotive being worked on in a shop setting, like happened any many shops on the PRR....It would be the easiest, cheapest and simplest thing to do with the 60 and offer an insight into the behind the scenes scene of a "working" locomotive, verses a stuffed and pretty painted loco?

Just a thought...[/quote]

That's an excellent thought - in fact, that's exactly what's been done with a derelict 2-8-0T at STEAM, the Great Western Railway Museum, in a portion of the formerly-vast GWR works at Swindon, UK.

Here's the loco in its later years at Barry Scrapyard:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/3867623911/

Here it is today, shown "under construction" not very far from where it was actually built:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/taffytank/3490611373/

It's easy to imagine the subject PRR engine displayed likewise, with similar appropriateness, at Altoona.

sure...just torch the cab in half....no one will notice....we'll fix it up later!


NOT

http://www.lockhaven.com/page/content.d ... l?nav=5009

6/2/2008

Cost to ship to park us $50,000 to $60,000.

I think she looks pretty good for having been in that quarry so long. This is that engine? Right?

From what I see, it looks like you can't read that article without paying to subscribe.

Tom

The PRR locomotive may be in rough shape, but you would be hard pressed to find a locomotive in worse shape than the CNJ 113 when it was at the breaker in Locust Summit, PA. But with the hard work and barrels of money spent, it is now a magnificent restored and operable locomotive. It is amazing what can be accomplished if the will and skill is there.

It has been said by many current and former W&W members that 113 was still in much better shape than 60 when they both sat in Hercules siding. On top of that, I did a personal inspection about a year ago just to see how bad it looks. I climbed in the smokebox, which is paper thin, to discover a nasty and rusty flue sheet. A few of the tubes are still in there, but it looks as if a few of them are completely rotten out and collapsed. The firebox is empty. you can climb in from the bottom if your brave soul dares to do so. Plus the cab started to sag in recent years.

60 is dead. I'm one of the few people who has believed for years that there would be more justice done to 60 to scrap it (there are no parts left) than let it sit any longer. It should have never been saved or sent to Delaware. Historical, yes. Worthy of time and money, absolutely not.