I'm trying to figure out how you'd use interest by people without money...

they came back from the dead-up for sale again!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1930s-45-TON-LOCOMOTIVE-NEW-JERSEY-HISTORIC-GE-TRAIN-ROEBLING-/281154883890?pt=Other_Vehicles_Everything_Else&hash=item4176231132&vxp=mtr#ht_500wt_743

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1960s-100-TON-LOCOMOTIVE-NEW-JERSEY-HISTORIC-GE-TRAIN-ROEBLING-/281154891057?pt=Other_Vehicles_Everything_Else&hash=item4176232d31#ht_500wt_743

This is comical at this point. Allied is a scrap dealer. I’m not sure it has yet been approved by the courts, but their purchase price for the 45 tonner is shown as $10K, and the 100 tonner was $9050. Nice mark up on their price.

And at this point the N5C, NX23, and CNJ caboose all have successful bidders.

Well gosh, golly... think of all the time they spent showing up for the auction..... that must be worth at least $80K........

I wonder if they don't get repo'd by the court some day. They appear to be a auto salvage yard, I wonder if they are equipped to cut and haul one of these. As collector items, we all know most museums would feel lucky to raise transportation money if they got donated. IMHO the future for these locos is bleak, but it's certainly been a mildly interesting ride the past few years on these!

If we are to read between the lines of what was posted up above--the "recovered from PHT members" part--there appears to be an ongoing fight between what PHT alleges they own versus what was supposedly sold by the courts, with parties removing what they believe they rightfully own after what was supposedly their seizure and sale.

This is getting uglier by the minute.

"Our shop car!" Didn't you donate the car and all of it's contents to the PTHT? Didn't you receive a 501 (c) 3 for that donation? Didn't you take a deduction on your taxes for that donation? And were there any strings attached to the donation, i.e, use, or application of the car? Was the bid for a 1950, 40' PS-1 boxcar or for a 40' rolling shop? And how did you access the car? Did you keep a key after you turned the car over to the trust?

I was surprised to read that you told the Burlington County Times that the car was in bad shape. Funny how you neglected to mention the new fluorescent fixtures and hard wired switches and receptacles that were installed and paid for by the trust volunteers along with the electrical panel. Prior to that, the only way to get power into the car was to pull an extension cord. And the brakes were still on the floor of the car exactly where you helped us put them since they hung under the car and had to be removed to transport.

So in closing sir, please get your facts, all of your facts, straight before you throw remarks about.

Regards
Mr. Ed

Mr. Ed,

When your property is effectively seized, repossessed, or confiscated and resold in court actions or legal proceedings--whether or not you agree with the legal force involved--the circumstances you cite in your most recent post change completely.

If I am fully aware that my car is about to be repossessed, or that I am in danger of being evicted from my apartment for violation of my lease, I'd certainly take extraordinary pains to not keep anything especially valuable in my car or apartment, or relocate anything precious or irreplaceable I was capable of moving before the sheriff came.

Repo men and foreclosure agents routinely, and with legal procedure and sanction, "break into" cars and houses and change locks.

Buy me dinner sometime, and I'll tell you the long and convoluted story about how I repossessed a railroad car for its owner, moved it across five states and three railroads, and had it being switched into the owner's siding JUST as the party that had been using the car rang the owner demanding to know what had happened to "his" car........

This thread is being locked. Posts making accusations of theft have been deleted. This is a sad situation but nevertheless very relevant to rail preservation so feel free to start a new thread(s) related to final disposition and/or efforts to preserve equipment related to this situation. Accusations, name calling, and innuendo will not be tolerated.


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