Those beautiful ACL 4-8-4's

Steamguy73 · **Joined:** Wed Dec 24, 2014 3:15 pm **Posts:** 633

Your welcome. I love these engines as much as everyone else in this conversation does. I just wish one was preserved for us to stare at in amazement

TimReynolds · **Joined:** Sat Aug 31, 2013 4:11 pm **Posts:** 287

The tenders were huge! The pic of one paired with the N&W Y4 really gives you an idea just how big the tenders of these locos were.

Being a Southeasterner, stinks that these went away without one survivor.

whodom · **Posted:** Mon Apr 13, 2015 7:49 pm

The ACL had some decently sized freight power in the Q-1 2-10-2's, but imagine being used to USRA light 4-6-2's as being "big" passenger power and then seeing these 4-8-4's replace them. I wish I'd been there to see it!

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

whodom wrote:

The ACL had some decently sized freight power in the Q-1 2-10-2's, but imagine being used to USRA light 4-6-2's as being "big" passenger power and then seeing these 4-8-4's replace them. I wish I'd been there to see it!

Hugh -

Here's one of the Q-1's after it was sold to the Chicago & Illinois Midland:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3288275

C&IM #754 had been Atlantic Coast Line #2014. The engines were given ex-New York Central tenders off of Mohawks. Great looking 2-10-2's!

Les

whodom · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2015 12:04 pm

Les Beckman wrote:

Hugh -

Here's one of the Q-1's after it was sold to the Chicago & Illinois Midland:

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... id=3288275

C&IM #754 had been Atlantic Coast Line #2014. The engines were given ex-New York Central tenders off of Mohawks. Great looking 2-10-2's!

Les

IMHO, those big ex-NYC tenders were an aesthetic improvement over the original Vanderbuilt tenders. Too bad a "2000" wasn't saved as well.

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Hugh -

The C&IM had four different classes of 2-10-2's. Their 600 and 700 class engines (purchased new), the ex-Wabash 650 class and the ex-ACL 750 class, which replaced the worn out Wabash engines. Any of these would have made a great engine to be preserved, with much to be said for one of the ex-ACL engines as a good choice. Unfortunately, didn't happen!

Les

CREEPING DEATH · **Joined:** Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:22 pm **Posts:** 275

Finderskeepers wrote:

and apparently the 1504 is a zero mileage engine, fully rebuilt before being displayed and also the most complete USRA Pacific in existance.

Not to start any sort of fight, but wasn't this engine heavily damaged when set up for display by welding on the drivers?

CD

whodom · **Posted:** Tue Apr 14, 2015 5:35 pm

CREEPING DEATH wrote:

Finderskeepers wrote:

and apparently the 1504 is a zero mileage engine, fully rebuilt before being displayed and also the most complete USRA Pacific in existance.

Not to start any sort of fight, but wasn't this engine heavily damaged when set up for display by welding on the drivers?

CD

According to Bill Purdie (this was a first-hand conversation), the only thing done to the engine was that small steel blocks were welded in front of and behind each cross head to prevent them from moving. As he put it "Give me an angle grinder and 5 minutes, and I'll have it ready to roll."