Early 0-4-0 Switchers

softwerkslex · **Posted:** Sat Aug 04, 2018 7:02 am

Kelly Anderson wrote:

They are the simplest engines you could possibly conceive of. Accordingly the ability is readily available today to build a new one from scratch following a pattern that you would like.

You offering?

610BS · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:37 pm **Posts:** 65

There are still plenty of locomotives waiting to be saved, including early ones like this one that I recently acquired. Biggest problem is, nobody cares about this old stuff.

I agree with Kelly, these locomotives are quite simple there's nothing much to the chassis and any reputable foundry can easily replicate the castings at reasonable costs.

In the past year, I made the patterns and the foundry recast most of the missing castings for this locomotive, at minimal cost.

This "locomotive" actually started life as a "street motor" in 1890 and was reconfigured in 1903 to be a coal burning locomotive. Other than the build sheet, I've found no records showing its original configuration. Thus, my intent is to rebuild it as an 1890's era locomotive, preserving any remaining street motor features.

If I can do it, anyone else can do it.

twofoot · **Joined:** Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:14 pm **Posts:** 205

610BS wrote:

There are still plenty of locomotives waiting to be saved, including early ones like this one that I recently acquired. Biggest problem is, nobody cares about this old stuff.

I agree with Kelly, these locomotives are quite simple there's nothing much to the chassis and any reputable foundry can easily replicate the castings at reasonable costs.

In the past year, I made the patterns and the foundry recast most of the missing castings for this locomotive, at minimal cost.

This "locomotive" actually started life as a "street motor" in 1890 and was reconfigured in 1903 to be a coal burning locomotive. Other than the build sheet, I've found no records showing its original configuration. Thus, my intent is to rebuild it as an 1890's era locomotive, preserving any remaining street motor features.

If I can do it, anyone else can do it.

I wonder how much her looks would be improved if you removed the center set of drivers during the rebuild?

Keep us posted on your progress!

Chris

John T · **Joined:** Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:05 pm **Posts:** 1270

Which of these two do you have?

C/N 922 0-6-0T 8X12 12T? 04-12-88 36”gauge
Francis H. Cook Spokane Falls, WA for
Spokane & Montrose Motor RR #1 Spokane Falls, WA

C/N 1167 0-6-0T 9X14 28” dr 14T? 04-90 36” gauge
Spokane & Montrose Motor RR “CLIFF CHIEF” Spokane Falls, WA

610BS · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:37 pm **Posts:** 65

The second one.

Ron Goldfeder · **Posted:** Sun Aug 05, 2018 2:24 pm

Do you have any photos of its original appearance for us?

610BS · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:37 pm **Posts:** 65

Never found any original photos of CN 1167, only post 1903.
Build sheet for CN 1167 says similar to CN 922 however, cab with turret roof and ventilators.

Original photos of CN 922 are shown here...

http://www.nostalgiamagazine.net/2017/12/30/francis-h-cook-the-father-of-manito-park/

lmckay175 · **Posted:** Sun Aug 05, 2018 5:17 pm

What exactly is a "street motor" anyway? Is it simply another term for a steam dummy?

John T · **Joined:** Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:05 pm **Posts:** 1270

street motor=steam motor=dummy locomotive

They were called dummies because they were dumb, that is, silent. The exhaust was muffled so as not to scar the horses.

daylight4449 · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2018 1:26 pm

Kelly might know better, but if these things are so simple, and you wanted to replicate one, what sort of cost are you looking at? I'd imagine somewhere in the seven digits...

Kelly Anderson · **Joined:** Tue Sep 14, 2004 7:52 am **Posts:** 2477

Dennis Storzek · **Posted:** Mon Aug 06, 2018 4:28 pm

I bet Our Gang could do it cheaper...