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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:46 am 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
Anyone on a pool for how fast they're gone?

The absolute "perfect" scenario in such a situation (any concert, etc.) is for the last tickets to sell only minutes before departure. If they sell out in a half-hour (think arena rock concert tickets of old), you're doing something both right and wrong.


As someone who works in the live entertainment industry I can assure you this is not the case. The sooner an event sells out the better. If it sells out fast and the demand is there, you add additional performances “extended by popular demand!”



Definitely this, especially for mainline-type excursions where your cost structure can be dramatically different. However, having a pool of cars is a major, major savings...owning the real estate helps too. In recent experience without these dedicated resources, you need to often guarantee 95-100% sell outs to get a good 50/50 ratio. Everyone can breathe a lot easier the sooner you're sold out, too...


Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote:
Now, the trend of first/premium class cars selling out instantly seemingly no matter the price has certainly inspired some operations, including the Reading & Northern, to expand their first class cars--which used to be 1-3 cars on the back of specials and are now half or more of some mainline specials (because few want to save coaches in mainline condition?)...........


I can attest that coach seats are often the hardest to move or the last to sell in mainline excursion experiences of late. Those first-class, lounge and dome classes are premium, unique experiences/accommodations. The lower-priced coach seats are good to have on hand to an extent -- especially if you want to keep the event accessible with different financial means.

Looking forward to being a passenger myself.

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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 10:54 am 

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Breathe easier? I can’t breathe at all until I’ve sold at least 50% of an event! Haha.


One benefit the RBMR has when it comes to coach seats is that they have open windows which some will prefer. Although maybe not in July!


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 11:38 am 

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I suspect R&N has it down to a science regarding how many trips to run and optimal ticket price since they run these excursions so often. I'm actually a little surprised that they haven't tapped out the market given how often they run the Reading-Jim Thorpe route.

I'm really hoping to get up there for this one. Literally every prior commitment I have for the summer falls on the dates of these runs. I was shooting for fall but just learned the Oct. trips do not include run-bys. Ugh!


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 12:46 pm 

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NJDixon wrote:
I've taken four trips with the Reading & Northern (one Lehigh Gorge with the rebuilt GP30s, one Lehigh Gorge with #425, the RDC charter trip to Girardville with the National Museum of Industrial History, and a Reading-Jim Thorpe trip with #425) and every time has been an absolute delight. The R&N passenger department knows their stuff, that's for sure.

I'm going to go down and chase #2102 on May 28th, and then hopefully ride behind her for one of the fall trips. I'd also like to see #425 in action again sometime this year before her ticket runs out

Last I heard, 425 was down and out for the count. I think they got started on her inspection early.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 6:26 pm 

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mcgrath618 wrote:
NJDixon wrote:
I've taken four trips with the Reading & Northern (one Lehigh Gorge with the rebuilt GP30s, one Lehigh Gorge with #425, the RDC charter trip to Girardville with the National Museum of Industrial History, and a Reading-Jim Thorpe trip with #425) and every time has been an absolute delight. The R&N passenger department knows their stuff, that's for sure.

I'm going to go down and chase #2102 on May 28th, and then hopefully ride behind her for one of the fall trips. I'd also like to see #425 in action again sometime this year before her ticket runs out

Last I heard, 425 was down and out for the count. I think they got started on her inspection early.


Oh that’s a shame. Was hoping we’d get to see her and #2102 together before she went down. I can’t imagine they will be in any rush to get her up and running again.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 8:41 pm 

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Crescent-Zephyr wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:
NJDixon wrote:
I've taken four trips with the Reading & Northern (one Lehigh Gorge with the rebuilt GP30s, one Lehigh Gorge with #425, the RDC charter trip to Girardville with the National Museum of Industrial History, and a Reading-Jim Thorpe trip with #425) and every time has been an absolute delight. The R&N passenger department knows their stuff, that's for sure.

I'm going to go down and chase #2102 on May 28th, and then hopefully ride behind her for one of the fall trips. I'd also like to see #425 in action again sometime this year before her ticket runs out

Last I heard, 425 was down and out for the count. I think they got started on her inspection early.


Oh that’s a shame. Was hoping we’d get to see her and #2102 together before she went down. I can’t imagine they will be in any rush to get her up and running again.


I wouldn't expect #425 to fall by the wayside. There's a lot of recognition there and she's pretty well loved, even by the non-railfan sorts. The plan is to use #425 for the Lehigh Gorge trips and other short runs, while #2102 is to be used on the longer hauls like Reading-Jim Thorpe or the rumored Wilkes-Barre service. It'd certainly be neat to ride behind #2102 to Jim Thorpe, then ride behind #425 through the Lehigh Gorge during the layover, then go back to Reading behind #2102. Just don't expect any doubleheaders, from what I hear Andy Muller thinks the two look silly paired up due to the size difference.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:04 pm 

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Also, R&N has said that #2102 will make her debut run in freight service. So look for that to happen some time before May 28th


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:08 pm 

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The two engines are also on different 1472-day cycles. While one is down for repairs and inspection, the other is running.

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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 9:59 am 

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NJDixon wrote:
Also, R&N has said that #2102 will make her debut run in freight service. So look for that to happen some time before May 28th

Trains said mid-March.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:05 pm 

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mcgrath618 wrote:
NJDixon wrote:
I've taken four trips with the Reading & Northern (one Lehigh Gorge with the rebuilt GP30s, one Lehigh Gorge with #425, the RDC charter trip to Girardville with the National Museum of Industrial History, and a Reading-Jim Thorpe trip with #425) and every time has been an absolute delight. The R&N passenger department knows their stuff, that's for sure.

I'm going to go down and chase #2102 on May 28th, and then hopefully ride behind her for one of the fall trips. I'd also like to see #425 in action again sometime this year before her ticket runs out

Last I heard, 425 was down and out for the count. I think they got started on her inspection early.


According to the website, 425 will be running the 1st weekend of November. Not really advertised but if you click buy now under the autumn leaf excursions and scroll to the bottom it shows up.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 5:54 pm 

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BM765 wrote:
mcgrath618 wrote:
NJDixon wrote:
I've taken four trips with the Reading & Northern (one Lehigh Gorge with the rebuilt GP30s, one Lehigh Gorge with #425, the RDC charter trip to Girardville with the National Museum of Industrial History, and a Reading-Jim Thorpe trip with #425) and every time has been an absolute delight. The R&N passenger department knows their stuff, that's for sure.

I'm going to go down and chase #2102 on May 28th, and then hopefully ride behind her for one of the fall trips. I'd also like to see #425 in action again sometime this year before her ticket runs out

Last I heard, 425 was down and out for the count. I think they got started on her inspection early.


According to the website, 425 will be running the 1st weekend of November. Not really advertised but if you click buy now under the autumn leaf excursions and scroll to the bottom it shows up.


No reason 425 couldn't be back up and running before then. I haven't seen her myself, only heard from a colleague. FWIW, I've also seen pictures of her lately with the smokebox door removed and tender separated.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Thu Feb 17, 2022 11:27 pm 

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Hello,

To all on this board, it’s good to see the 02 T-Hog back on the road!

A big thank you to Mr. Laepple on this forum for identifying THE event that very well got me hooked on these coal breathing monsters. He graciously pointed out to me a scene from a Ramble film that pegged it.

The date was May 2nd, 1964, I was 2 years old, about to turn 3, 2 days later on May 4th. Mr Laepple thought he saw a man holding a boy in his arms at a crossing near Starners Station just south of Goodyear on the old Reading branch to Gettysburg. The film was recorded from inside the train looking outward. After reviewing the film down to frame by frame, yes indeed, my father was holding me, my oldest sister was standing in front of us, my brother was standing beside us! Thank you Wayne for the memory I cannot remember!

I will be 61 on May 4th, it’s hard to believe the O2 has lasted as long as me and hopefully will live longer than me! It is also amazing the O2 has not run for 30 years??! WHAT?

In the eighties, when Charlie would really accelerate the 02 hard on the BM&R, I distinctly the booming exhaust from the 02’s huge smoke box, they same impression may have amazed me when I was two years old!

Got to get up there to see my old friend!

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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 10:33 am 

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Got my tickets for the August ramble after I saw the announcement. Can't wait to get down there again. Last trip I was on was the 765 Bethlehem to Pittston trip.


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Sat Feb 19, 2022 4:27 pm 

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. . . Just don't expect any doubleheaders, from what I hear Andy Muller thinks the two look silly paired up due to the size difference.


I don't think 2102 and 425 would look any more "silly" double heading than did Southern's ex-T&P 2-10-4 No. 610 did with No. 4501 back in the '70s!


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 Post subject: Re: So...While You Were Beaching..2102
PostPosted: Mon Feb 21, 2022 10:27 am 

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nathansixchime wrote:
I can attest that coach seats are often the hardest to move or the last to sell in mainline excursion experiences of late.

It'd be interesting to know if that's also the case for those places running coaches with open windows. Part of the rise of premium seats may be because if you're going to ride in essentially a hermetically sealed car it might as well be in style.


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