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The most important part of this article, at least in my opinion.

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Railroads will have to shift to an operating model based on reliability, velocity, and growth rather than a simple mandate to maintain a low operating ratio, Bailey says. A railroad that is reliable and efficient is also one that’s low-cost and should produce an attractive operating ratio. But ultimately, investors will have to support a pivot to growth, she says.
How much of an impediment is Wall Street? Bailey says she’s encouraged that all of the Class I railroads are talking about growth. “The CEOs of the railroads know that this is the future of the industry,” she says.

But Surface Transportation Board Chairman Martin J. Oberman, speaking in a later presentation, said he was not encouraged by trends in the industry.

Activist investor TCI Fund Management, he notes, has been critical of Canadian National’s financial and operational performance. CN then adopted a plan to eliminate jobs, cut costs and capital spending, raise rates, and buy back shares while reducing its operating ratio. “It could not be more obvious that the timing of this new plan … is in direct response to the investor-driven pressures,” Oberman says.

Wall Street has an outsized influence on the railroad industry, he contends. “The Class I’s have become almost completely shareholder-centric in their business philosophy and actual operations and have long ceased being customer-centric,” Oberman says.

Oberman says rail executives have told him that if they don’t do what Wall Street wants, they’ll be replaced by someone who will.


https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... P3t3qO7-YM

Starting a new business, or growing an existing one, can be and very often is hard. Anyone who has attempted something like that knows just how difficult it is. Those who have struggle with inadequate resources all the time. I know, I dealt with business owners daily for 36 years as an auditor for the State of West Virginia. I saw the troubles they often had.

But that's OK for someone running a mowing and grounds business out of his basement. It's just TOO STRENUOUS for the millionaires and billionaires of Wall Street.

From an editorial at Railway Age.

RAILWAY AGE!!

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A term we have heard recently from those railroads implementing PSR principles is that they are entering a phase where they are “pivoting to growth.”

Again, referring to my April meeting with the financial group consultant, a key point of discussion was a significant rail business opportunity being pursued by the state. This opportunity involves a significant amount of freight presently moving daily from a manufacturing facility in Northern Nevada to another facility in California, approximately 280 rail-miles distant. What is proposed in this opportunity is to replace the trucks (up to 52 per day) currently transporting this freight with a dedicated train providing overnight service. The specific question asked by the consultant was in regard to the possibility of providing such service by rail. My response was, “Absolutely, it’s possible, we’re already doing it.” The parties currently advocating for the movement of this business from truck to rail expect that achieving the participation of the railroad will be difficult.

Why would a transportation company potentially walk away from such a growth opportunity? Perhaps because the business isn’t profitable? In this case, rather, it appears the railroad may be reluctant to conduct serious discussions because the business isn’t profitable enough. It would be a low-margin business not conducive to the railroad reaching that all-hallowed 55 operating ratio PSR focuses on.

The shunning by a railroad of such a business opportunity because it is not profitable enough (the euphemism for which, apparently, is “marketizing”) does equate to stifling local economic development initiatives, hampering job growth, and obstructing certain climate initiatives. It may even equate to the railroad shirking its common-carrier obligation specified in Title 49 of the U.S. Code. It most certainly does not equate to “pivoting to growth.”

Can we please be honest here?


There's more at the source:

https://www.railwayage.com/freight/psr- ... nest-here/


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 3:53 am 

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If you want to know what it’s like when Alden Capital buys your local newspaper, you could look to Montgomery County, Pennsylvania, where coverage of local elections in more than a dozen communities falls to a single reporter working out of his attic and emailing questionnaires to candidates. You could look to Oakland, California, where the East Bay Times laid off 20 people one week after the paper won a Pulitzer. Or to nearby Monterey, where the former Herald reporter Julie Reynolds says staffers were pushed to stop writing investigative features so they could produce multiple stories a day. Or to Denver, where the Post’s staff was cut by two-thirds, evicted from its newsroom, and relocated to a plant in an area with poor air quality, where some employees developed breathing problems.. . .

Alden’s calculus was simple. Even in a declining industry, the newspapers still generated hundreds of millions of dollars in annual revenues; many of them were turning profits. For Freeman [Heath Freeman, principal officer at Alden), and his investors to come out ahead, they didn’t need to worry about the long-term health of the assets—they just needed to maximize profits as quickly as possible.

From 2015 to 2017, he presided over staff reductions of 36 percent across Alden’s newspapers, according to an analysis by the NewsGuild (a union that also represents employees of The Atlantic). At the same time, he increased subscription prices in many markets; it would take awhile for subscribers—many of them older loyalists who didn’t carefully track their bills—to notice that they were paying more for a worse product. Maybe they’d cancel their subscriptions eventually; maybe the papers would fold altogether. But as long as Alden had made back its money, the investment would be a success. (Freeman denied this characterization through a spokesperson.)


Tell me more about how we have a "liberal" media, when so much of it is corporate owned. . .

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https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/ar ... vIPgQuG8Nk


This is from Facebook. The fellow who shared it had this to say:

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"They came not to praise news but to bury it and sell it for parts." Alden Global recently bought the parent company of the Sun Sentinel. I notice that lately almost all of their opinion articles on economic matters are coming from people affiliated with the Heritage Foundation."


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 Post subject: Re: OT: Survey says rail workers overwhelmingly support a st
PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 4:04 am 

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Fun with movies--

How things used to be (including a young Marylin Monroe in a supporting role!)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvpmHgLqkV8

And what we've become (yeah, some may have heard that this fellow who made this is some dangerous liberal--and I can't say I like his stunt at the end--but does he not speak the truth?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK4H79j1I4A


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 1:01 pm 

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I'll bet Biden and his team are considering all sorts of options, I think they have had it with the Class I's' Wall Street bosses and don't want to reduce the Brotherhoods' bargaining power, but want freight to keep moving. I'm not positive but I believe some sort of directed service order a la the Rock Island in 1979 would allow them to cut out the carriers and negotiate a fair deal with the Brotherhoods, not to mention an USRA-style takeover. Far-fetched, but I don't expect Biden to stand still.




https://www.cnbc.com/2020/10/28/wall-st ... biden.html

It's almost amusing how people adhere to worn out stereotypes.


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"Railroads have begun preparations to secure what they call “hazardous and security-sensitive materials” to make sure no such cargo is left on a train left unattended or unsecured in the event of a work stoppage, the Association of American Railroads, Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific, and BNSF Railway all said in news releases or messages to customers this evening (Friday, Sept. 9)."
https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... -stoppage/


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I've browsed the railroading sub reddit and wouldn't be surprised if a large strike happens. Might want to buy a few extra essentials before the rest of the country needs them too.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2022 10:49 pm 

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J3a-614 wrote:
Tell me more about how we have a "liberal" media, when so much of it is corporate owned. . .


Every last news media source you've ever heard of, aside from some lone guy trying to pass out socialist or religious tracts on some street corner, is owned by a "corporation." That in no way means that the "corporation" micromanages the content of the media in question, especially to some "rightist" viewpoint. Even the "Corporation for Public Broadcasting" is just that, a corporation.

Indeed, it can be speculated that recent major staff changes at the formerly vastly left-leaning CNN and other outlets are in response to declining revenues and profits (ain't that what those evil "capitalists" are all about?).


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I can tell you that the view from the actual left about our "corporate" media is very different, and there very much is a corporate line. If you don't think so, then take an hour and watch a random episode of a totally non-profit, non-corporately-funded program like DemocracyNOW! with Amy Goodman. Their take Friday on the passing of the Queen was unlike anything I have heard from any broadcast or cable news outlet, and a lot more critical of her and monarchy in general.


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 4:20 pm 

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PaulWWoodring wrote:
I can tell you that the view from the actual left about our "corporate" media is very different, and there very much is a corporate line. If you don't think so, then take an hour and watch a random episode of a totally non-profit, non-corporately-funded program like DemocracyNOW! with Amy Goodman. Their take Friday on the passing of the Queen was unlike anything I have heard from any broadcast or cable news outlet, and a lot more critical of her and monarchy in general.

The same is true of The Guardian, here's one: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... ish-empire

I really would prefer that this thread stay on the topic of negotiations between the operating unions and the freight railroads on the subject of pay and work rules, and not veer off, unintentionally or intentionally, into culture war topics. While I called it off-topic, the results could have a huge impact on preservation, especially concerning track and equipment. Will a reorientation away from OR to growth change the impulse to abandon track and equipment which are profitable but "not profitable enough"?


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Here's a snippet of what the BLE put out to us members today....

"....Late on Friday, September 9, the nation’s largest railroads began warning major shippers that they are declaring an embargo on certain types of new shipments five days in advance of the end of the federally mandated cooling-off period at 12:00 AM EDT September 16. They further advised that all rail shippers could be blocked from making any rail shipments well in advance of next Friday’s deadline for a lockout or strike. This completely unnecessary attack on rail shippers by these highly profitable Class I railroads is no more than corporate extortion...."

The railroads are going to try to turn public sentiment against us.... I bet it's a confusing time for some of our MAGA union members... how they reconcile being a member of an organization with whom their chosen political party will do anything to eliminate...


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Bad Order wrote:
Here's a snippet of what the BLE put out to us members today....

"....Late on Friday, September 9, the nation’s largest railroads began warning major shippers that they are declaring an embargo on certain types of new shipments five days in advance of the end of the federally mandated cooling-off period at 12:00 AM EDT September 16. They further advised that all rail shippers could be blocked from making any rail shipments well in advance of next Friday’s deadline for a lockout or strike. This completely unnecessary attack on rail shippers by these highly profitable Class I railroads is no more than corporate extortion...."

The railroads are going to try to turn public sentiment against us.... I bet it's a confusing time for some of our MAGA union members... how they reconcile being a member of an organization with whom their chosen political party will do anything to eliminate...


Bad Order, I think you're mixed up on the facts. Wall Street helped put President Biden in office (see article above) and they also pull the strings in railroading. Not sure why you seem to believe that Republicans are trying to kill off railroad unions. You need to educate yourself. You can read between the lines all you want, but I saw the railroad's warning for shippers as simply that - a warning. Imagine if a long strike ensued and the railroads didn't give ample warning to the shippers? Seems like a fair move by the railroads to CYA and avoid more litigation and unnecessary lawsuits if something catastrophic occurs.


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While I called it off-topic, the results could have a huge impact on preservation, especially concerning track and equipment. Will a reorientation away from OR to growth change the impulse to abandon track and equipment which are profitable but "not profitable enough"?

I am extraordinarily skeptical that the current status of rail corporation operations and their significant labor issues will actually have any real impact on serious rail preservation. Nobody in preservation appears to be attempting to save major rail lines or regions (with the notable but arguable exception of the Reading & Northern!); I struggle to think of any rail lines in limbo or threatened with abandonment owned by any of the major railroads or holding companies that would be a worthy and not-redundant "preservation" target (and I'm going as extreme as Saluda, Tennessee Pass, etc. in looking); the most recent major line preservation project crashed and burned spectacularly (San Luis & Rio Grande/etc.)..............

What we may fear instead is some corporate or "re-regulatory" environment that could bring us back to the days of railroads being financially or corporately unwilling/unable to donate redundant or retired equipment or resources to museums or non-profits. I certainly don't see the likes of CSX or BNSF going bankrupt if they suddenly have to pay for more employees and/or abide by a new STB regulatory environment enforcing more difficult (for the RRs) crew availability, but in the eyes of the few public people paying attention, we're dangerously close to the old "The public be damned!" days of the rail barons, and if/when rail strikes start meaning mass chicken/livestock starvation, food shortages in urban stores, toys and clothing not reaching stores for Christmas, etc. the public antagonism towards the industry and its workers will be palpable, if probably misunderstood and misinterpreted.

Incidentally, Britain's rail unions suspended planned nationwide work stoppages this week out of deference to the national mourning for the late Queen Elizabeth II...............


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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2022 11:59 pm 

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J3a-614 wrote:
The most important part of this article, at least in my opinion.

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Railroads will have to shift to an operating model based on reliability, velocity, and growth rather than a simple mandate to maintain a low operating ratio, Bailey says. A railroad that is reliable and efficient is also one that’s low-cost and should produce an attractive operating ratio. But ultimately, investors will have to support a pivot to growth, she says.
How much of an impediment is Wall Street? Bailey says she’s encouraged that all of the Class I railroads are talking about growth. “The CEOs of the railroads know that this is the future of the industry,” she says.

But Surface Transportation Board Chairman Martin J. Oberman, speaking in a later presentation, said he was not encouraged by trends in the industry.

Activist investor TCI Fund Management, he notes, has been critical of Canadian National’s financial and operational performance. CN then adopted a plan to eliminate jobs, cut costs and capital spending, raise rates, and buy back shares while reducing its operating ratio. “It could not be more obvious that the timing of this new plan … is in direct response to the investor-driven pressures,” Oberman says.

Wall Street has an outsized influence on the railroad industry, he contends. “The Class I’s have become almost completely shareholder-centric in their business philosophy and actual operations and have long ceased being customer-centric,” Oberman says.

Oberman says rail executives have told him that if they don’t do what Wall Street wants, they’ll be replaced by someone who will.


https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... P3t3qO7-YM

Starting a new business, or growing an existing one, can be and very often is hard. Anyone who has attempted something like that knows just how difficult it is. Those who have struggle with inadequate resources all the time. I know, I dealt with business owners daily for 36 years as an auditor for the State of West Virginia. I saw the troubles they often had.

But that's OK for someone running a mowing and grounds business out of his basement. It's just TOO STRENUOUS for the millionaires and billionaires of Wall Street.

From an editorial at Railway Age.

RAILWAY AGE!!

Quote:
A term we have heard recently from those railroads implementing PSR principles is that they are entering a phase where they are “pivoting to growth.”

Again, referring to my April meeting with the financial group consultant, a key point of discussion was a significant rail business opportunity being pursued by the state. This opportunity involves a significant amount of freight presently moving daily from a manufacturing facility in Northern Nevada to another facility in California, approximately 280 rail-miles distant. What is proposed in this opportunity is to replace the trucks (up to 52 per day) currently transporting this freight with a dedicated train providing overnight service. The specific question asked by the consultant was in regard to the possibility of providing such service by rail. My response was, “Absolutely, it’s possible, we’re already doing it.” The parties currently advocating for the movement of this business from truck to rail expect that achieving the participation of the railroad will be difficult.

Why would a transportation company potentially walk away from such a growth opportunity? Perhaps because the business isn’t profitable? In this case, rather, it appears the railroad may be reluctant to conduct serious discussions because the business isn’t profitable enough. It would be a low-margin business not conducive to the railroad reaching that all-hallowed 55 operating ratio PSR focuses on.

The shunning by a railroad of such a business opportunity because it is not profitable enough (the euphemism for which, apparently, is “marketizing”) does equate to stifling local economic development initiatives, hampering job growth, and obstructing certain climate initiatives. It may even equate to the railroad shirking its common-carrier obligation specified in Title 49 of the U.S. Code. It most certainly does not equate to “pivoting to growth.”

Can we please be honest here?


There's more at the source:

https://www.railwayage.com/freight/psr- ... nest-here/


In your next post, you have a single panel cartoon showing hedge funds as mobster-looking embalmers.

Just so you know, the Children's Investment Fund is a hedge fund, you might remember them from their time at CSX.


https://www.blankrome.com/publications/ ... fund-et-al

The judge took them to the woodshed.

Some people deliberately go close to the line dividing legal from illegal if they see a sufficient opportunity for profit in doing so. A few cross that line and, if caught, seek to justify their actions on the basis of formalistic arguments even when it is apparent that they have defeated the purpose of the law. This is such a case.

Also the editorial you're quoting is a guest editorial by a Matt Parker.

Matt Parker is a locomotive engineer and serves as Chairman of the Nevada State Legislative Board for the Brotherhood of Locomotive Engineers and Trainmen.

That isn't the pedigree of an industry mouthpiece, even if I agree with the implicit notion that PSR is a recipe for an industrial Icarus Complex. Any KPI can become an obsession, but there's more to any business than a single metric.

One other thing, if you own mutual funds or exchange traded funds-you are Wall Street.

Full disclosure: my last position in a railroad security was a cash covered Sep 16 NS 155 put. Opened it for $75 on July 1, closed it for $5 on August 22.


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https://www.trains.com/trn/news-reviews ... al-action/

“Our members are being terminated for getting sick or for attending routine medical visits as we crawl our way out of worldwide pandemic,” Ferguson and Pierce wrote Sunday. “No working class American should be treated with this level of harassment in the workplace for simply becoming ill or going to a routine medical visit... As we have said from the day that they were implemented, these policies are destroying the lives of our members, who are the backbone of the railroad industry.”


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It seems like the small railroads are having no trouble getting people to hire. My guess is a lot of people from the class ones are trying to get in even though the pay is less it's really attractive having a Monday to Friday work schedule and nights and weekends home.


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