> Now,
> if I could just get my hands on a certain
> BL-2 from the Monhardt estate......

Good luck getting the BL2. The current owner doesn't part with any of his stuff cheap or easily.

Boyd


ddg14@attbi.com

Now,
> if I could just get my hands on a certain
> BL-2 from the Monhardt estate......

> TJG

TJ:

Whatever do you want with a New England locomotive?? Didn't know the BAR went to Michigan!

HP

hpincus@mindspring.com

Probably a good idea in some ways, though at first glance it seems like just another rationalization for raiding the MOT collection.

So, my question would be, if MOT loaned something to museum A, what does museum A loan to MOT for the same time period and the same terms?

It cannot be a one-way street that sees MOT's collection cherry-picked by those who think they know more about what "belongs" where than those who saved it in the first place when others wouldn't or couldn't.

If carried to conclusion, Steamtown (as just one example) would be a very empty place.

And I have spent many years in the museum business.

Without going into any specific ideas about what from where and to who, there is real value in real estate occupied by stuff not currently in an interpretive function - dead storage. Loaning stuff out to responsible parties under specific controlled conditions can result in a museums having to expend less resources on supporting dead stored stuff indefinitely.

MOT has a mission of collecting and interpreting a broad spectrum of types of stuff - not a geographic imperative. Let's not pick on them for doing a great job of their defined mission and making vast improvements in the past few years.

Dave

> Now,

> TJ:

> Whatever do you want with a New England
> locomotive?? Didn't know the BAR went to
> Michigan!

> HP

Think C&O. The C&O's BL's were used almost exclusively on the ex-Pere Marquette branches in Michigan, and were the main power in Michigan's Thumb Region for a number of years due to light rail issues. If E and F-Units can be made over for "other" railroads, why not a BL? #1848 anyone?
Also, anyone know if C&O GP's #5800 or #5801 still exist? When the BL's left, they were immediate replacement power.

TJG



Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org

> Think C&O. The C&O's BL's were used
> almost exclusively on the ex-Pere Marquette
> branches in Michigan, and were the main
> power in Michigan's Thumb Region for a
> number of years due to light rail issues. If
> E and F-Units can be made over for
> "other" railroads, why not a BL?
> #1848 anyone?
> Also, anyone know if C&O GP's #5800 or
> #5801 still exist? When the BL's left, they
> were immediate replacement power.

> TJG

TJ:

I knew where you were headed on that one-- just pulling your leg a bit. I'm a reformed "faker", having been responsible for the "NYC 4096" UP E-9 now privately owned in Danbury, CT.

HP

hpincus@mindspring.com

> TJ:

> I knew where you were headed on that one--
> just pulling your leg a bit. I'm a reformed
> "faker", having been responsible
> for the "NYC 4096" UP E-9 now
> privately owned in Danbury, CT.

> HP

Kind-of figured that. I remember an article about that E-9 in the old L&RP a few years back. Quite the outfit.

By the way, I keep hearing the new owner of the Monhardt BL2 wants high-prices, but I've yet to hear an actual price come down the pike. What's he want, a billion dollars and world peace?

TJG

Port Huron Museum
tjgaffney@phmuseum.org

I've never heard an actual price, but basicly the way I understand it is that he doesn't want to give up any of the equipment he owns, so asking prices are always so outrageous that no one is going to get what he has...
I've heard that leases can be arranged though. Three of his E's were to be leased to Kevin Costner's proposed operation in South Dakota before that deal fell through.
Maybe if you made a deal to store one of the BL2s for him? They're just taking up track space in Green Bay, and even for display they really don't need two of them.

Boyd

ddg14@attbi.com