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 Post subject: Re: Former Steamtown Equipment
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 10:00 pm 

Keith,

Don Provencer (sp?) of the Gorham museum has told me the same story about the tender. It sure "looks" like a B&M mogul tender!

Rob

> The 0-6-0, No.4 built 1911 by Baldwin for
> Eastern Gas & Fuel in Everitt, Mass. The
> engine is now on display in Gorham, NH
> lettered Grand Trunk and numbered 7531. From
> the 1971 Steamtown roster, it mentions that
> the tender came from Boston & Maine
> Mogul #1435. Can someone verify?


  
 
 Post subject: 737 trade in 12/29 Briefs n/m
PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 11:36 pm 

737 trade in 12/29 Briefs n/m


  
 
 Post subject: Re: The British loco(s)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 3:56 am 

An update from this side of the pond. Both Repton and the M7 tank, both in their BR gueses as 30926 and 30053 have operated this past year. Repton was returned to service following an overhaul in 2002 (every ten years here) and 30053 had an extension to its boiler ticket until tomorrow ish. She will from January need a full overhaul again. The M7 operates mostly on the Swanage Railway (http://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/) and 30926 on the NYMR. In early April 2003 30926 came south and was maskaraded as (still existant, but inoperative) class mate 30925 Cheltenham to open the Cheltenham Racecause extension to the Gloucestershire Worwichshire Railway. I have photos of both these locomotives operating in 2003 if anyone is interested.

Owen "Chappers" Chapman

odc@sp4449.freeserve.co.uk


  
 
 Post subject: Repton and NYMR
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:25 am 

Thanks for the correction, Owen. I thought she was still out of service from the overhaul (NYMR web site is way out of date). I just re-read Heritage Railway and see my error... she was in and out of service for a brake problem apparently in 2003.

HR is my only contact with the UK steamers. Wish I could get over there!

Rob -- whose current wish is a cab ride in a Black Five!

> An update from this side of the pond. Both
> Repton and the M7 tank, both in their BR
> gueses as 30926 and 30053 have operated this
> past year. Repton was returned to service
> following an overhaul in 2002 (every ten
> years here) and 30053 had an extension to
> its boiler ticket until tomorrow ish. She
> will from January need a full overhaul
> again. The M7 operates mostly on the Swanage
> Railway (http://www.swanagerailway.co.uk/)
> and 30926 on the NYMR. In early April 2003
> 30926 came south and was maskaraded as
> (still existant, but inoperative) class mate
> 30925 Cheltenham to open the Cheltenham
> Racecause extension to the Gloucestershire
> Worwichshire Railway. I have photos of both
> these locomotives operating in 2003 if
> anyone is interested.

> Owen "Chappers" Chapman


  
 
 Post subject: Re: The British loco(s)
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 6:09 pm 

> Just a quick correction, the Irish narrow
> gauge loco is a 2-6-2T. It has been restored
> to operation. I believe it is still
> operational.

Though displayed for years at Steamtown (both at North Walpole, NH and Bellows Falls, VT), Tralee & Dingle #5 was never part of the Steamtown collection. It was owned by the late Edgar T. Mead, Jr. who arranged for its return to Ireland after Steamtown announced it was moving to Scranton.

fred.gracebailey@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: 1967/1971 Guides to the Collection
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 8:59 pm 

> Just happened to find a 1971 Steamtown
> Collection Guide, also found a 1967 roster
> which must have been done just before Nelson
> Blount's passing.
> 1967 lists 44 steam engines. It mentions
> that there are 20 locomotives in the
> Edaville Collection. It also mentions that
> there were locomotives in Florida, South
> America, etc that were owned by Mr. Blount.
> There is a locomotive from France, a Mallet
> Compound, 0-4-4-0, that was still in France
> at the time. The 1971 roster also lists some
> of the other rolling stock.

The l967 guide you mention is most likely one that was done just before FNB's death, as you mention. I believe the guide was actually produced by the Steamtown Foundation which was operating the museum at Riverside at that time.However, it should be pointed out that even though the Steamtown Foundation was operator of the museum property at the time, the locomotive collection with a handful of exceptions was the personal property of F. Nelson Blount. During the early days of Blount's steam locomotive collecting, there were no less than three seperate legal entities involved in acquiring locomotives: FNB personallly; Edaville Corp.; Monadnock, Steamtown & Northern Amusement Corp.
Green Mountain Railroad Corp. and Steamtown Foundation entered the scene is 1965. J. David Conrad's The Steam Locomotive Directory is probably the best written source of the numerous transactions that occured within the Blount entities. However, the Steamtown Collection was not really established officially until the settlement of the Blount estate in 1969.

I'm very familiar with the 1971 guide as it was put together by Edgar T. Mead, Jr. just after I began working for Steamtown Foundation in June, 1970. It was intended to be a self-guided museum tour for Steamtown visitors as well as a fund raising tool, but it was never very successful. Today, it's one of the few written records of equipment that was at Steamtown shortly after the Blount estate was settled.

The French 0-4-4-0 Mallet, along with a German 0-8-0T, were actually a part of the Steamtown collection--but not associated with the FNB era. Edgar T. Mead, Jr. arranged for their donation to Steamtown Foundation, but SF never was able to arrange for their shipping to the U.S.A. They were eventually given to preservation groups in their respective countries.
> The Park engine listed was from San
> Fransisco and was listed to be a 4-4-0 and 9
> 1/2" gauge.

> I have vivid memories of viewing the
> collection in about 1962 in the North
> Walpole yard and riding behind Rahway Valley
> 15 out of Keene, NH.
> Also recall seeing NKP 759 shortly after it
> arrived, her numbers and lettering still
> whitelined.


fred.gracebailey@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Former Steamtown Equipment
PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:15 pm 

> There is the Porter 0-6-0T in a junk yard in
> Newbury, Mass. Click on the lick below and
> scroll down to the bottom.

> Roger

Let's not forget the diesels from the Scranton era: D&H RS-3 #4075; the C&NW and KCS F-units; the ex-Maryland Midland SD-9's. At least two additional diesels were officially donated, but never received: a UP centennial, and a Baldwin cow/calf from a steel mill. Also, the GG-1 electric.



fred.gracebailey@earthlink.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Former Steamtown Equipment
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 1:49 pm 

What happened to the D&H RS-3 #4075? Is that the D&H RS-3 out at the Cuyahoga Scenic in Ohio?


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Former Steamtown Equipment
PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:04 pm 

> What happened to the D&H RS-3 #4075? Is
> that the D&H RS-3 out at the Cuyahoga
> Scenic in Ohio?

Nope, not sure which entity actually bought it at the Steamtown auction, but it went to one of Ray Kammer's companies (Presently Lake Central Rail Tours in Central Michigan). (I think its purchase was part of an equipment trade involving a steam locomotive). It did stints in various paint and numbers at Western Maryland Scenic also. I think it is presently parked in Mt. Pleasant Michigan as back up power for LCRT's dinner train.

Steve


SZuidervee@aol.com


  
 
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