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| Author: | Ed Kelley [ Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Movie Star Locomotive Needs Your Help |
You may not know her by name, but no doubt have seen her in movies or on TV. Sierra Railway #3, known as the most photographed locomotive in America, needs help. The 1891 Rogers 4-6-0 has been featured in more than 200 film and television productions including High Noon, Petticoat Junction, Little House on the Prairie, and more recently Back to the Future Part 3. The locomotive is a beautiful oil-burner with one of the most beautiful whistles to be heard anywhere. It is now owned by the California State Railroad Museum and still resides in the Jamestown roundhouse, now part of the Railtown 1897 State Historic Park complex. Restoration was started, but $300,000 is still needed to complete the restoration work (mainly the boiler) before she can run again. Please visit the link below to learn how to contribute to the 3-spot's restoration. For those of you who have never heard of the Sierra Railway or Railtown 1897, the historic railway runs between Oakdale and Standard, California in California's Mother Lode (gold country) at the base of the Sierra-Nevada mountains. The shortline is still in existence today, now based out of Oakdale using diesel locomotives. Although the Sierra offers a dinner train out of Oakdale, there is no better way to enjoy riding the line behind a steam locomotive. On weekends, one can ride either a 1922 Baldwin Consolidation #28 (built for and still running on the Sierra) or a 1922 3-truck 90 ton Shay (former Feather River Railway #2, sister to the #3 now Cass #11). I highly reccomend that anyone who enjoys steam or history take the trip out to Jamestown to see a circa 1922 railroad yard frozen in time and to ride behind a vintage steam locomotive. The yard is home to the original roundhouse, machine shop, air-powered turntable, and the famous water tank used in "Petticoat Junction". Everything is pretty much operational, and tours are offered (and if I remember correctly, turntable rides are too). A variety of excursions are offered throughout the year, although the steam-powered dinner trains are not. They may still be doing wine and cheese trains. When one thinks of the old west, this is it. Tuolumne County is still very much unchanged, and there are lots of places for you to explore. If you are in the area you may also want to check out the Yosemite Mountain Sugar Pine Railroad. Although it is a decent hike from the Sierra (not down the street) you can see one of two ex-West Side narrow gauge shays in operation. #10 is the largest narrow gauge Shay ever built. Give maybe 5-10 years and you may be able to once again ride behind a shay on the old West-Side Lumber Company line out of Tuolumne. A group is working to restore the line up to the site of the now-derelect Bourland Trestle. There are several buildings at the site and some old steam donkeys. A Rogers internal combustion "critter" is there too. The Shay acquired for use on the line is now in Washington state getting rebuilt as time allows. It was once in front of a casino in Boulder City, Nevada. I don't believe the site is open to the public as it is owned by the Me-Wuk tribe who wants to build a casino there. From what I hear they are somewhat open to the idea of a steam railway on the site as it may help with their attraction. If you are interested in the Sierra and aren't planning to be in California anytime soon, may I reccomend the following videos. Greg Scholl Productions offers a video on the Sierra made around 1990 (I have the Marathon of Steam video featuring it). It features the #28 and is well done. In addition, there is a film from the 1970s called "Mother Lode Shortline" that is despite its age still very interesting. You can see the #3, #28, and #34 (a Mikado stored in the roundhouse at Jamestown today) in action as well as the old Jamestown depot that was destroyed by fire. Also I found most interesting the "Movie Railroad" video put out by Machines of Iron, which (also from the 1970s) shows much footage of the #3 and the #8 (Short Line Enterprises/Dardanelle & Russelville/Nevada State Railroad Museum) including a double header by the two 1800s steamers doing a doubleheader with period rolling stock. There is even footage of movies being made on the line. Oh and by the way, the #3 does not have the balloon stack, wood pile, and box headlight you see in the movies. It in reality (when not dressed up for the movies) has an electric headlamp with deer antlers, a straight stack (in the early 1990s with a spark arrestor on top), and an oil tank in the tender. When I was at Railtown in maybe 1995, she was operational (but not under steam that day) and had a beautiful yellow with red lining lettering and paint job. Daylight Sales had a great T-shirt of her too. Help #3 GTNGRR@aol.com |
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| Author: | Ed Kelley [ Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Movie Star Locomotive Needs Your Help *PIC* *PIC* |
Here's a picture of the Sierra #3 in 1996 from the web. This was to celebrate the move of the administration from California State Parks to the California State Railroad Museum. I haven't been to Railtown since the CSRMF took over, but I have heard it is much better. The 3-spot is wearing a dummy stack and has a fake wood pile in the tender too. By 1997 when the CSRM celebrated its 100th Birthday in Oakdale, she was wearing her straight stack again. I wish I could find a .wav file of her whistle to share on the web, its amazing. -Ed Kelley ![]() gtngrr@aol.com |
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| Author: | Ed Kelley [ Fri Jun 18, 2004 7:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | One more Sierra pic *PIC* |
Shot from Bonsall's Fotoimages of the Railtown 1897 shop complex, very much unchanged from 1897. The cab is from the #3, the diesel switcher was one of a string of ex-Military engines donated to Railtown. I believe they were from the Concord Naval Weapons Station. The other diesel at Railtown is also ex-military, used in a Chrystler commercial. These diesels are seperate from the ones owned by the Sierra-Pacific Corporation of Oakdale, those (including vintage Baldwins, a chop-nosed GP9, and GP20s) are kept at Oakdale. The modern day descendant of the Sierra Railway also owns the Yolo Shortline and California Western (Skunk Train) Railroads. ![]() gtngrr@aol.com |
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| Author: | Bob Yarger [ Fri Jun 18, 2004 8:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Movie money |
Given the number of film studios and film stars No. 3 has been associated with, I would think those sources would be good to try and tap for funding this restoration. This engine has helped make gazillions for these folks over the years and perhaps they (and/or their heirs in some cases) might give a little back to a good cause like this. ryarger@rypn.org |
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| Author: | JD Moore [ Sat Jun 19, 2004 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Not Sierra Pacific |
The Sierra Railroad is not owned by Sierra Pacific. FOrest products giant Sierra Pacific Industries is the biggest shipper on the road, and while SPI does own one operating railroad elsewhere, they do not own the Sierra. The freight operations were held by an outfit known as the Sierra Pacific Coast for a brief period before the current ownership took over. JD Moore ELko, NV > Shot from Bonsall's Fotoimages of the > Railtown 1897 shop complex, very much > unchanged from 1897. The cab is from the #3, > the diesel switcher was one of a string of > ex-Military engines donated to Railtown. I > believe they were from the Concord Naval > Weapons Station. The other diesel at > Railtown is also ex-military, used in a > Chrystler commercial. These diesels are > seperate from the ones owned by the > Sierra-Pacific Corporation of Oakdale, those > (including vintage Baldwins, a chop-nosed > GP9, and GP20s) are kept at Oakdale. The > modern day descendant of the Sierra Railway > also owns the Yolo Shortline and California > Western (Skunk Train) Railroads. jamoore@elko.net |
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| Author: | mw [ Sun Jun 20, 2004 4:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Movie Star Locomotive Needs Your Help |
What the story on the Rogers internal combustion "critter" mentioned? I recall Rogers went into Alco long before the diesel age. mw > You may not know her by name, but no doubt > have seen her in movies or on TV. Sierra > Railway #3, known as the most photographed > locomotive in America, needs help. Give maybe 5-10 years and you may be able to > once again ride behind a shay on the old > West-Side Lumber Company line out of > Tuolumne. A group is working to restore the > line up to the site of the now-derelect > Bourland Trestle. There are several > buildings at the site and some old steam > donkeys. A Rogers internal combustion > "critter" is there too. p_michael_warren@yahoo.com |
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| Author: | Brian Norden [ Sun Jun 20, 2004 5:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Movie Star Locomotive Needs Your Help |
> What the story on the Rogers internal > combustion "critter" mentioned? I > recall Rogers went into Alco long before the > diesel age. Different Rogers. The industrial 3-foor gauge switcher was made by Rogers Brothers Corp. They were primarily a maufacture of highway truck trailers. During the 1950s they tried building small locomotives. Reportedly they built less than 30 locomotives. This information from "Critters, Dinkys & Centercabs: The indentification guide for small American gas and Diesel Locomotives" by Jay Reed. See link below. A few years ago a few 3-foot gauge Rogers along with a number of Plymouths were offered by auction from the former Badger ammunition depot near Madison, WI. They went all over the US. Brian Norden Jay Reed's website |
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| Author: | Ken Middlebrook [ Mon Jun 21, 2004 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Unchanged Wild West? |
> When one thinks of the old west, this is it. > Tuolumne County is still very much > unchanged, and there are lots of places for > you to explore. A lot has changed since the weekend my father and I chased the Sierra #34 in his 1962 corvette between Jamestown and Standard. The corvette is gone. The 34 has sat silently in the roundhouse for two plus decades Shopping malls, highway construction and general suburbia sprawl now abut the Sierra right-of-way. Fortunately, fond memories of that weekend remain for both my father and I. |
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| Author: | Steve Gilbert [ Mon Jun 21, 2004 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | An all-time favorite. |
> You may not know her by name, but no doubt > have seen her in movies or on TV. Sierra > Railway #3, known as the most photographed > locomotive in America, needs help. > The 1891 Rogers 4-6-0 has been featured in > more than 200 film and television > productions including High Noon, Petticoat > Junction, Little House on the Prairie, and > more recently Back to the Future Part 3. > The locomotive is a beautiful oil-burner > with one of the most beautiful whistles to > be heard anywhere. Growing up in the 60's, the opening title to Petticoat Junction was always one of the hi-lites of the week. Hearing that whistle still raises the hairs on the back of my neck, to this day. I never had the fortune to see her run in person. My only trip there was in June '78. #3 was simmering in the roundhouse, after, I think, some "moviestar" work. One year I got the TYCO HO Petticoat Junction set, with the #3, for Christmas.This was my first step away from the Lionel stuff I had since age 1. I still have all the trains, but few boxes. I hope to see and ride behind #3 someday, and hear that whistle in person ! |
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| Author: | Ed Kelley [ Fri Jun 25, 2004 10:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: The Unchanged Wild West? |
Would you happen to be the same Ken Middlebrook from the Billy Jones Wildcat Railroad? I was a volunteer there and looking through the old scrapbooks there was a Ken Middlebrook mentioned in there that picked up the old Homestake air trammer that sat in the enginehouse in the early 90s. I didn't start volunteering there until 2000, and at that time the 2-spot was down for five years already and the #1500 and air trammer were gone. I do have very fond memories of the 2-spot and went many weekends during the summer months to see it operate between 1989-1994 or 5 (or whenever its last run was). I was there the day they ran two trains at the same time with the #2 and #2502, and then a doubleheader of both. Thanks and Happy Rails, Ed Kelley GTNGRR@aol.com |
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| Author: | Ken Middlebrook [ Mon Jun 28, 2004 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Billy Jones Wildcat Railroad |
> Would you happen to be the same Ken > Middlebrook from the Billy Jones Wildcat > Railroad? Ed, Yes. In fact, my wife, Katie, and I were the last engineers to operate the 2-spot before she (the locomotive!) was taken out of service. We had taken a "leave of absence" from the engineer's roster with the arrival of our two sons and my increased involvement with SP2479. With our sons now older, ages six and four, we have agreed to re-establish our active status on the BJWRR engineer roster. My involvement with the BJWRR dates back to 1969 when the railroad was moved to the park. BTW, the air locomotive, Homestake #12, remains in storage at CSRM. Ken kamiddle@rockwellcollins.com |
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| Author: | Ed Kelley [ Mon Jun 28, 2004 2:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Billy Jones Wildcat Railroad |
10 years of no steam on the Wildcat Railroad hasn't been a good thing. The #2502 is in dire need of repairs and was a mess. I do not think they have put in the new Isuzu diesel engine which has been sitting in the enginehouse for a few years now since they use it as the primary locomotive. And that new diesel they bought for relief of course still has not been delivered and with Custom Locomotive out of business this makes it even harder. I occasionally drove by the 2479 restoration site. I used to visit it at the fair each year. Was very sad to hear the fairgrounds aren't letting the CTRC go though with their museum plans there. Have you guys found a new site yet? I saw all of the drawings for the museum and was pretty impressed. Also with the Kelley Park 24" gauge park train out of operation, this would be an opportunity for the CTRC to expand their trolley line. Thanks and Happy Rails, Ed Kelley GTNGRR@aol.com |
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| Author: | Ken Middlebrook [ Mon Jun 28, 2004 3:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | CTRC |
Was very sad to hear the fairgrounds > aren't letting the CTRC go though with their > museum plans there. Have you guys found a > new site yet? I saw all of the drawings for > the museum and was pretty impressed. Also > with the Kelley Park 24" gauge park > train out of operation, this would be an > opportunity for the CTRC to expand their > trolley line. Two years has now lapsed since the county recinded their support for a fairgrounds RR museum and yet no firm alternative site has been identified. For now, we have narrowed our search to three separate city of Santa Clara-owned parcels. While these locations meet our primary criteria of being adjacent to an active rail line, each site has additional limitations such as size, existing easements, etc. Several years ago, CTRC constructed additional trackage alongside Senter Road to almost Happy Hollow. We have not been able to electrify the line; as a result, it sits unused except for the few times we operated the 1863 horsecar courtesy of Jiggs, a hay-burner from our SPCRR friends in Ardenwood. Eventually, our trolley line is to be extended even further around Happy Hollow and across the Coyote River to a new parking lot that is to be developed alongside Story Road. When time has permitted, we been trying to update our website. Ken |
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