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| Author: | Tom [ Sat Apr 22, 2000 4:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
This photo appeared on Railfan.net's ABPR archive. Does anybody know more about it? Does anybody have a passenger car roster for this road? <p>Many Thanks, <p>Tom <p>Here is the caption info & photo credit that was posted with it:<br>From: Bill Waller wsw1856@adelphia.net <br>Subject: US K&K Hiding deep in the darkness - KK_0292L_Varnish_in_Roundhouse.jpg <br>Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 17:03:41 GMT -- File Info: JPEG 800x525 <br>File="KK_0292L_Varnish_in_Roundhouse.jpg" Size=68148 <br><br> 
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| Author: | HP [ Sat Apr 22, 2000 7:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
This D&H wood "Carbondale Commuter Coach" (these cars- arch roof wood coaches, were used on the Carbondale-Scranton commuter train into the late 1940s-- they were rebuilt by D&H for that service in the late 1920s) was rescued from work train service and apparently restored by the railroad itself, and was kept in Building 29, the Colonie Coach Shop. I recall seeing it there about 1973, and being amazed that it existed, amazed at its condition (mint, restored recently), and amazed that the D&H had done the restoration! I always wondered what happened to it. Might be nice to see it Scranton some day. Maybe Tim Truscott has some more info on the car ?<br> |
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| Author: | Tom [ Sat Apr 22, 2000 8:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
There are two former Gettysburg coaches listed on the DF Barhnardt website (listed as Erie Stillwell coach and NYC coach). There was a third, another Stillwell. Does anybody know where it went. Incidently, where would the NYC coach listed here have been used by the NYC.<p>http://www.trains-trams-trolleys.com/equipment/coach/<br> |
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| Author: | HP [ Sun Apr 23, 2000 2:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
The NYC steel coach is the typical NYC 4-axle clerestory-roof coach (sort of the NYC's "P-70"), and many of them wound up in NY-area commuter service (especially on the Harlem Division) in the mid-1950s, lasting until 1974-75. Most of those commuter cars were rebuilt with smooth sides above the belt rail, and flush rubber-gasketed windows. They carried the two-tone gray until most got PC "Puke Green" paint.<p>The one in Barnhart appears to have the original window sash, and may have been a P&LE car-- some of them lasted unmodernized and wearing solid dark green until 1970-72. One even made it to the Harlem Division, still lettered "New York Central System" on the letterboard.<br> |
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| Author: | Nick D'Amore [ Wed Apr 26, 2000 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
This car was used on the first run over the Kinzua Bridge in 1986? but is no longer in regular K&K service. It's been in the roundhouse with H&BT #38 for several years. Sloan also had a number of wooden cars at Gettysburg and did truck one up to Marienville afte the GETy sale. <p>NJD<br> n---damore@penn.com |
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| Author: | Tom [ Wed Apr 26, 2000 10:23 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
What cars were in this collection? How many exist today and where? Did the Buffalo & Susquehanna (later B&O) RPO/Combine that the Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania acquired in (1995?) come from this collection? <p>Description of car from http://www.rrmuseumpa.org<p>No. 35<br>Buffalo & Susquehanna, Baltimore & Ohio, Wellsville, Addison & Galeton Railroad, Combination Baggage Passenger Coach, Barney & Smith, 1906, wood construction. <p>Any help is much appreciated.<p>Tom<br><br> |
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| Author: | Kurt Bell [ Thu May 04, 2000 3:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Wood Passenger Car @ Knox & Kane |
Yes indeed, the Buffalo & Susquehanna coach at the Railroad Museum of PA did come from Sloan Cornell. It had been stored indoors in the Gettysburg RR enginehouse for many years, and with Cornell's move from Gettysburg to the K&K in 1997, it had to go. In fact, the Museum had a narrow 48-hour window to mobilize, otherwise the car might have been scrapped in situ. Much of the credit goes to Mike Venezia of Venezia Enterprises who did a very professional move of the car from Gettysburg to Strasburg. He comes highly reccommended for any historic equipment moves required via truck. The car is now cocooned, awaiting future restoration.<p>Kurt Bell<br>Railroad Museum of Pennsylvania<br> |
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