Britian's biggest

bobyar2001 · **Posted:** Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:52 pm

Big 9F at Barry in 1968. Last information I had on this one (1980s) was it was reserved for 9F Locomotive Ltd. (Peak Railway). Any updates?

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?d ... 9Barry.jpg

Gavin Hamilton · **Posted:** Tue Feb 01, 2005 5:17 am

It went to Buxton in 1985, where restoration was started. It was moved to the Midland Railway Centre, Butterley, in 1990. It is (now) owned by the same group who own 92214. Their website (www.92214.co.uk) seems a bit thin on details.....

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Joshua K. Blay · **Posted:** Tue Feb 01, 2005 8:21 pm

Might I suggest that the Garratt's on LNER were Britian's biggest?

Often wonder what an American Garratt would have looked like.

Joshua

Gavin Hamilton · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 10:46 am

[quote="Joshua K. Blay"]Might I suggest that the Garratt's on LNER were Britian's biggest?

Often wonder what an American Garratt would have looked like.

Joshua[/quote]

The LNER Garratt was the heaviest and most powerful, but it was a one off - the were 250 9F's (and well over 1000? assorted 2-8-0's).....

There have been rumours of a large Garratt designed by Alco (licence holders) for the spec that resulted in the UP 4000's. However no one has ever produced any evidence.................

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Ed Fritz · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 11:35 am

Gavin Hamilton wrote:

There have been rumours of a large Garratt designed by Alco (licence holders) for the spec that resulted in the UP 4000's. However no one has ever produced any evidence.................

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I thought Lima was the Garratt licence holder for the U.S.

Ed
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Gavin Hamilton · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:10 pm

"I thought Lima was the Garratt licence holder for the U.S."

Now I'm having doubts.... It might have changed at some point but I'll check up when I get home and can go through the books.

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Gavin Hamilton · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:14 pm

US Licence Holders

Baldwin Locomotive Works (December 1910)
American Locomotive Company (1930's)

No mention of Lima that I can find.

Of course all the cast steel beds came from the USA....

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Ed Fritz · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:23 pm

I just thought you'd enjoy the picture of the Shay that got new rod trucks down in Brazil. I did a double take the first time I saw the photo.

Ed

Gavin Hamilton · **Posted:** Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:41 pm

Ed Fritz wrote:

I just thought you'd enjoy the picture of the Shay that got new rod trucks down in Brazil. I did a double take the first time I saw the photo.

Ed

Hi Ed,

That interesting conversion was carried out in 1930. It was Lima 3185/1922. The conversion never entered revenue service - reportedly a failure

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P.S. Information extracted from "Locomotivas Articuladas - as gigantes da era do vapor no Brasil". Fortunately the photo captions and tables are bi-lingual. Now I've got some decent OCR & translation software I might have a go at translating the text - if I ever find the time :D