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 Post subject: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 10:08 am 

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Has anyone tried Removall 501 from Napier, Hydro Strip or other chemical compounds to remove paint for rail cars? If so, I would like to hear about your expeiences with these products.
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Ron


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 12:49 pm 

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Hi Ron - wood or metal?

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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 3:48 pm 

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The Museum of Transport, St. Louis County, has used a product called "Peel Away" on several projects with good resulst. Peel Away can be used on wood or metal. The only draw back is the expense.


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:51 pm 

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Metal. but I am also looking for a good product for wooden cars


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:36 pm 

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I have used a product called "Aircraft Stripper" with amazing results. The only thing is to be sure to keep it off your skin. And use it in a well ventilated area!!


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 8:26 pm 

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I agree with the recommendation of aircraft stripper for metal cars. I don't like using anything quite that caustic on wood, however. There's an outfit in tennesswee that sells industrial furniture refinishing supplies that has a nice range of products, wish I had their catalog handy. If the wood has layers of built up paint, heat plates and guns work very nicely.

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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:51 am 

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Aircraft stripper is somewhat over rated in my opinion. I was part of a stripping team on an office car the interior of which is comprised of both wood and metal. The Removall product sounds familiar....if I remember correctly. It comes in both a liquid and semi gel form(clear but about the consistency of a very thick paint). Spend the extra money and go with the gel, ultimately you will use less product and spend less time on the project.


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers
PostPosted: Mon Jan 31, 2005 9:19 pm 

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At the Valley Railroad we use "PEELAWAY" 1 for wood and "PEELAWAY" 6 for metal. It is good stuff and it doesn't stink or kill you (a real bonus!)
J.David


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers for STAINLESS STEEL
PostPosted: Tue Feb 01, 2005 1:47 pm 

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Any good recommendations for stainless steel?

I need to strip some paint, heavy decals and assorted gunk from a dome car soon.

Also, any good treatments for cleaning the stainless and getting to to really shine again? Got two dome cars with heavy grime problems.

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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers for STAINLESS STEEL
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 7:01 am 

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It depends a lot on the grade of stainless, and the resulting resistance to chemicals. In general avoid any compounds with chlorine or having chloride ions in the formula. And in general, acids do little harm to stainless.

In the dairy industry, treatment with acids is done to 'passivate' the stainless after welding and acids are a routine part of cleaning stainless steel equipment. (This is usually for series 300 stainless alloys) In Europe they favor Nitric Acid but this is a dangerous to humans and tricky to handle compound. In the US Phosphoric Acid is more often chosen, and it can be obtained with additives such as chelating agents that make it more effective.

As with any chemicals, make sure you know what you are doing, work safely and do not simply flush this stuff down the drain. Get expert help and the proper equipment before starting on a project like this.

Bob Kutella


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 Post subject: Re: Chemical paint strippers for STAINLESS STEEL
PostPosted: Wed Feb 02, 2005 2:19 pm 

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Thanks, Bob.

I'm stripping/cleaning 18-8 stainless, which I guess is now referenced as 304. Someone told me that Morrison Knudesen used to have a great method for cleaning 18-8, but I've never been able to find info on it.

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