Dave Conrad's text includes a number of NdeM 4-8-4's supposedly "resting" in scrapyards in Mexico. Does anyone have any info on whether they do in fact still exist, or what their condition might be? Thanks!

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Don't know about the 4-8-4s but if anybody can find me one of the (original) NSRy. Baby Berkshires in Mexico, I'll be down there with a checkbook in hand ready to take her home!

Ah, to dream.

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For a good start hunting them down, check out Wes Barris' Mexico page on Steamlocomotive.com--he keeps things pretty current.

http://www.steamlocomotive.com/lists/MEX.html


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> For a good start hunting them down, check
> out Wes Barris' Mexico page on
> Steamlocomotive.com--he keeps things pretty
> current.

>
> http://www.steamlocomotive.com/lists/MEX.html

Thanks for posting the URL for the 4-8-4's and such. I was not even a teenager when in Mexico with a John Vickers charter, and Dave Conrad was on it with us. Didn't realize it was the same guy until about 2-3 years ago, when he contacted me and send me a B&W he took of the last 4-8-4 being outshopped in Aguascalientes with a kid in front if it with a camera dangling around his neck. I had to admit it was me! Engine was 3046, and one of the 50% of my shots that turned out with that cruddy little camera. Fond memories especially of the Narrow Gauge in Merida and the all-day narrow gauge from Pueblo to Mexico City.
Anyone out there remember John Vickers(from Texas). Sadly he passed away many years ago(80's) due to complications with diabeties. He went to Mexico for steam many times, and got a lot of guys interested before they went diesel!
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> Don't know about the 4-8-4s but if anybody
> can find me one of the (original) NSRy. Baby
> Berkshires in Mexico, I'll be down there
> with a checkbook in hand ready to take her
> home!

> Ah, to dream.

Jim:

It's amazing that, although Mexico did a pretty good job of preserving steam, it seems that NONE of the steamers that previously served U.S. railroads, were saved. No IC 4-6-0's, no NKP 2-8-2's, no FEC 4-8-2's and NO (original) Norfolk Southern 2-8-4's! I realize that the rail preservation movement was just starting to take off when Mexican steam was ending but you think that at least ONE of these engines would have been preserved. Oh well, another case of a missed opportunity!

BTW, I still find it hard to believe that Mexico didn't save at least one example of either of their two classes of 4-8-0's!


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> Jim:

> It's amazing that, although Mexico did a
> pretty good job of preserving steam, it
> seems that NONE of the steamers that
> previously served U.S. railroads, were
> saved.

They stuffed & mounted at least one engine that previously ran on a "little" US railroad.

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http://www.ferrocarriles.com/steam/indi ... ey350.html

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> Dave Conrad's text includes a number of NdeM
> 4-8-4's supposedly "resting" in
> scrapyards in Mexico. Does anyone have any
> info on whether they do in fact still exist,
> or what their condition might be? Thanks!

I have found pictures of two of them on the Internet, and have recieved permission to publish one of them in "Surviving World Steam Locomotives"

They look to be in pretty good shape; about like a typical park engine. Not much rust at all. I believe most of them have been earmarked for museums in Mexico, and some may have been moved already.


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