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Author:  bobyar2001 [ Wed May 11, 2005 11:35 am ]
Post subject:  Is this the one now at Sacramento?
SP M of W locomotive, originally a 2-6-2ST (I think here, an 0-6-2T). My number listings don't show the extant one as 566, however. Is this it or another one?

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/viewima ... idpay&sp=0
Author:  survivingworldsteam [ Wed May 11, 2005 12:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
What an unusual looking tank engine! I don't think it survived; I have not seen anything even remotely resembling it in any survivor's lists.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Project
Author:  Steam2k [ Wed May 11, 2005 3:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
The one now at Sacramento is CP 233, which is still a 2-6-2T.
Author:  survivingworldsteam [ Wed May 11, 2005 3:33 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
Forgive my ignorance; I have never seen this critter before, and had it listed at the Niles Canyon RY Museum.

From Doug Bailey's website:

http://www.steamlocomotive.info/vlocomo ... isplay=223

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Project
Author:  Brian Norden [ Wed May 11, 2005 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
I understand that California State Railroad Museum and Pacific Locomotive Association made a trade that resulted in the Sacramento Shop built commuter 2-6-2T going back to Sacramento. I cann't recall the year orwhat elese was traded.
Author:  Ed Kelley [ Wed May 11, 2005 7:16 pm ]
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25+ years ago at Castro Point, by Brian Wise:
Image

Previously on display in Oakland with a robust diamond stack before the PLA got it. I believe the trade with the CSRM involved some Harriman cars. I'd presume it's currently in storage where it was built more than 115 years ago; the Sacramento Shops.

There was another of the Stevens-built 2-6-2Ts (used for commuter service in Oakland prior to electrification) that was still in use as a shop switcher (quite hacked over, and an 0-6-0 or 0-6-2 by this time) at Bayshore or Mission Bay if I recall into the 30s or 40s. Another apparently found its way to the Tidewater Southern, which Eugene Vicknair has been searching for information on.
Author:  Steam2k [ Thu May 12, 2005 4:35 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
Sorry if my post came across as rude, didn't mean to me. The CP 233 was moved sometime last year or late in 2003 to the CSRM in trade for 2 SP commuter coaches and a large milling machine. Before the PLA got her, she was sitting in an Oakland park.
Author:  smokebox [ Thu May 12, 2005 7:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
The locomotive now owned by the CSRM does in fact look just like the pictured loco. These were homebuilt "commuter" locomotives.

Smokebox
Author:  Ted Miles [ Thu May 12, 2005 3:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
James,

You were right this commuter loco was owned by the Pacific Loco Assoc operators of the Niles canyon Rwy, but they traded her to the California State RR Museum a year or two ago. She was one of two surviving locos built in their Sacramento Shop building.

The only other commuter engine I know about is the IC 201 recently purchased by the Illinois Railway Museum.

Ted Miles
Author:  Ted Miles [ Thu May 12, 2005 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Is this the one now at Sacramento?
James,

Further to what I said above; the SP East Bay Division was steam powered until 1911 when it was converted to electric traction in responce to the Key system operations.

At Rio Vista there are some of the bodies of the electric Intrerurban cars.
Known as "Big Red Cars" the SP ran electric equipment in Portland, East BAy, NWP and were going to convert the SF to San Jose line, but the Depression interveined.

Then that also had the Pacific Electric down in Southern California.
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