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Author: | Kevin Gillespie [ Thu Feb 22, 2001 2:00 pm ] |
Post subject: | Is Metro North Retiring The FP-10's? |
I know that the FL-9's are starting to go. But what about the FP-10's? I'm particularly concerned about them because they started life as GM&O F-3's. I'd like to see at least one of those go back home to Illinois and be restored in its red and maroon livery. kevingillespie@usa.net |
Author: | Frank Hicks [ Thu Feb 22, 2001 3:13 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is Metro North Retiring The FP-10's? |
> I know that the FL-9's are starting to go. > But what about the FP-10's? I'm particularly > concerned about them because they started > life as GM&O F-3's. I'd like to see at > least one of those go back home to Illinois > and be restored in its red and maroon > livery. Easier said than done. They were completely rebuilt by Morrison-Knudsen when they went to MBTA, and their appearance was heavily modified along with their innards. Presently they kind of resemble F-9's, not the F-3's they were built from. It would be quite difficult to build them back, the hardest part being obtaining and installing the "chicken-wire" grating, the raised ventillation fans, and perhaps extra porthole windows. I think it would be great if someone did this; however, I'm not particularly optimistic. Didn't a few FP10's already get sold off, to some short line in Idaho? |
Author: | Kevin Gillespie [ Thu Feb 22, 2001 5:42 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is Metro North Retiring The FP-10's? |
> Didn't a few FP10's already get sold off, to > some short line in Idaho? I don't know. That's why I asked the question. I remember them being heavily rebuilt by ICG at Paducah before they headed to Boston. I know they resemble F-9's more than their original F-3 form, but GM&O also operated F-7's which very closely resemble F-9's. So far, the only unrebuilt GM&O cab was a shell on display at an ex-GM&O depot in Missouri, and was torched when the town got tired of looking at it. I would like to see one of them survive in their original paint scheme even if they can't be backdated into F-3's. kevingillespie@usa.net |
Author: | L Beckman [ Thu Feb 22, 2001 10:07 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is Metro North Retiring The FP-10's? |
> I don't know. That's why I asked the > question. I remember them being heavily > rebuilt by ICG at Paducah before they headed > to Boston. I know they resemble F-9's more > than their original F-3 form, but GM&O > also operated F-7's which very closely > resemble F-9's. So far, the only unrebuilt > GM&O cab was a shell on display at an > ex-GM&O depot in Missouri, and was > torched when the town got tired of looking > at it. > I would like to see one of them survive in > their original paint scheme even if they > can't be backdated into F-3's. Kevin: Nice thought. Have you run this idea past the GM&O Historical Society? They own GM&O caboose #2954 and keep it at the Monticello Railway Museum in Monticello, IL. midlandblb@cs.com |
Author: | Bob Alkire [ Fri Feb 23, 2001 11:05 pm ] |
Post subject: | Re: Is Metro North Retiring The FP-10's? |
> Kevin: > Nice thought. Have you run this idea past > the GM&O Historical Society? They own > GM&O caboose #2954 and keep it at the > Monticello Railway Museum in Monticello, IL. Kevin and all, Issue 94(Spring/Summer 2000) of the GM&O Historical Society News has a list of the disposition of the MBTA FP10's along with their MBTA and original GM&O numbers. It can be ordered from the GM&O Historical Society (www.gmohs.org). If/when Metro North disposes of their FP-10's, we will make every endeavor to note and list that information in one of our publications. Unfortunately for the Society, restoring an FP-10 to red and maroon is beyond the financial means of the Society. tainfan@sprintmail.com |
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