Has any equipment moved from Toma hanna , Pa

Pat Fahey · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2001 8:58 pm

I would like to know IF,,,, any equipment from the Steamtown collection has moved from Tobbanhanna, Pa. If so to WHERE,, to what Museum, ETC. thank you Pat.

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Michael Brown (TVRM) · **Posted:** Fri Jun 01, 2001 9:11 pm

> I would like to know IF,,,, any equipment
> from the Steamtown collection has moved from
> Tobbanhanna, Pa. If so to WHERE,, to what
> Museum, ETC. thank you Pat.

I was up that way a few weeks ago, and I heard that nothing had moved, mainly because most of it will come to Steamtown before going on or being otherwise disposed of. And... Steamtown will have to finish the rebuild of their "coal yard" area between the roundhouse and the mall.

Mike

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Dave Crosby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2001 3:26 pm

Nothing has moved from the graveyard at Tobyhanna yet. Track equipment arrived for the rebuilding of the Steamtown storage yard tracks about an hour ago (6/4/01) so it will be some time before most of it comes down. A few pieces of equipment at Tobyhanna have already been stenciled for their new owners.

In other news, Steamtown has begun disposing of the "surplus" equipment that hasn't yet been adopted. A few weeks ago steamtown scrapped an ancient B&M wooden combine on the site. What is so shocking is that items such as hand rails, brake rigging and trucks were all cut up. These were items that could have been used by places like the Strasburg RR that operate similar coaches. I was amazed at the efforts taken to destroy all usable pieces of this car. I've never seen someone take the time to cut axles and truck center castings in half before. It was the first but I'm sure it won't be the last. It was done quickly and out of public view. I didn't even have time to take pictures!

Dave crosby

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Greg Scholl · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2001 3:41 pm

> Nothing has moved from the graveyard at
> Tobyhanna yet. Track equipment arrived for
> the rebuilding of the Steamtown storage yard
> tracks about an hour ago (6/4/01) so it will
> be some time before most of it comes down. A
> few pieces of equipment at Tobyhanna have
> already been stenciled for their new owners.

> In other news, Steamtown has begun disposing
> of the "surplus" equipment that
> hasn't yet been adopted. A few weeks ago
> steamtown scrapped an ancient B&M wooden
> combine on the site. What is so shocking is
> that items such as hand rails, brake rigging
> and trucks were all cut up. These were items
> that could have been used by places like the
> Strasburg RR that operate similar coaches. I
> was amazed at the efforts taken to destroy
> all usable pieces of this car. I've never
> seen someone take the time to cut axles and
> truck center castings in half before. It was
> the first but I'm sure it won't be the last.
> It was done quickly and out of public view.
> I didn't even have time to take pictures!

> Dave crosby

I bet there are a lot of preservationists on this board cringing after reading your report.

You mentioned some of the equipment has been stenciled for the new owners. Can you tell us who is buying what, so we can see what chances there are for some stuff being operational some day. Thanks in advance.
Greg Scholl

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Dave Crosby · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2001 4:19 pm

Well to be honest I would, but sense no announcements have been made by any of the organizations yet, I'd hate to ruin any special announcements they have.

Dave Crosby

scrantontrains
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Rick · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2001 7:52 pm

> Well to be honest I would, but sense no
> announcements have been made by any of the
> organizations yet, I'd hate to ruin any
> special announcements they have.

> Dave Crosby

Actually it is more likely there will be no announcements, and in a couple of months someone scrolling through the board will find the posts and ask the question again.

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Jay · **Posted:** Mon Jun 04, 2001 7:54 pm

> Actually it is more likely there will be no
> announcements, and in a couple of months
> someone scrolling through the board will
> find the posts and ask the question again.
i was there in october 2000..is the stuff that was scrapped @ tobyhanna, or the stuff behind the roundhouse @ scranton, cause there was a lot of stuff there too.....

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Aaron B. · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2001 11:03 am

I was wondering if Steamtown will be scrapping the Western Maryland (I think that was the road name?) F-Unit(s)?

Aaron

norfolk_western_611@hotmail.com

Pat Fahey · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:44 pm

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Pat Fahey · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2001 5:52 pm

> i was there in october 2000..is the stuff
> that was scrapped @ tobyhanna, or the stuff
> behind the roundhouse @ scranton, cause
> there was a lot of stuff there too.....
It would be ashame to see this equipment go to scarp, i am sure that some museums will come to the come forward and take some of this equipment to a better home, lets all hope it is very soon, F.Nelson Blount did what he had to do, Now hopefully, that some museums will step in and help. Pat Fahey cherif@ mediaone.net

cherif@mediaone.net

Michael Brown (TVRM) · **Posted:** Tue Jun 05, 2001 10:30 pm

The former Milwaukee Road FP7 that currently is painted for the Western Maryland as #97A is owned by a private individual who plans to part it out for the benefit of at least two other F-units. The overall condition is poor at best as I understand it. There is some talk of making the carbody into an office or something, but there is no reasonable way to restore it to working order. The other F7 (former KCS) has a new owner and will reportedly move from Tobyhana sometime this summer.

Mike

> I was wondering if Steamtown will be
> scrapping the Western Maryland (I think that
> was the road name?) F-Unit(s)?

> Aaron

Tennessee Valley Railroad Museum
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Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2001 1:08 am

Was the scrapped ex-B&M car the one that came from the St. J & L C? If so, I believe it was wood-framed and very old. It was kept at the Shelburne Museum for some years, then went to the Champlain Valley NRHS in Burlington, VT, where it deteriorated behind the Union Station for a while before being sent down to Steamtown in Bellows Falls to deteriorate further. What a sad ending for such a historic old car, meeting its fate at about the same time as the St. J & L C itself is to be destroyed.

bobyar2001@yahoo.com

Dave Crosny · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2001 2:45 pm

Hello

I'm not sure of the lineage of the car. I can describe it as a standard design wooden car, painted red. It was missing steps on all sides and for some reason it had smoked glass windows installed. I can't say for sure that it was the St.J&LC car though, I was under the impression that it was ex B&M. I'll also say that this is the ONLY piece to be scrapped so far.

Dave Crosby

tobyhanna pictures from 2000

Bob Yarger · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2001 3:31 pm

One thing for certain.. It was a ridiculously stupid move to cut up the trucks and other hardware, especially when other truckless carbodies are being restored.

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Pat Fahey · **Posted:** Wed Jun 06, 2001 6:31 pm

> One thing for certain.. It was a
> ridiculously stupid move to cut up the
> trucks and other hardware, especially when
> other truckless carbodies are being
> restored.
I would like to thank you all, for telling me what has beening done to this equipment, on IF, it dose, have a home?,, or not thank you all. PAT.

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