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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 11:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Altoona tender |
What is this tender at Altoona from? Suitable for one of the engines in the scrapyard at Roanoke?http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?january04/01-26-04/p39a05-208-AltoonaRailfest-tender-outside-fence.jpg |
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| Author: | Mike LaBouliere [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
Looks like it was used in fire or wreck train service. |
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| Author: | rrmuseum [ Fri Jul 22, 2005 10:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
It was built as the mate to a Pennsy I1. The cistern was converted to hold an oil tank and the coal bunker was removed in favor of a small "tool shop/work bench". It is owned by the Railroaders Memorial Museum and will eventually be moved back in to the Museum yard upon completion of our roundhouse/turntable project in the spring. I will pull the file next week and relay any additional info we might have on the piece.Thanks |
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| Author: | Richard Glueck [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
It appears to be a Pennsy tender, perhaps from a G5s. PRR kept quite a host of rebuilt tenders after the fall of steam. Some were used for fuel storage, some for water. I would often see them painted in MOW yellow, with Pennsy lettering in brown. How many have been retained and preserved at this time is unknown to me, but I am thinking of at least two. Has anyone compiled a list of preserved PRR tenders? |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 12:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
Probably the PRRT&HS can tell us where everything else is.The only other tender that I really know of was a 16-wheeled "long-haul" or "centipede" tender (PRR class 210F82, capable of 20,500 gallons of water and 30 tons of coal) that survived in Hagerstown, Md.'s ex-PRR yard until 1982, when it was (inexplicably) acquired by the Wilmington & Western. It had been converted to fuel oil storage, and was used in that capacity by the W&W, as I recall. (Somewhere I have a photo of it being switched by ex-Navy Yard 0-6-0T 3--making it look like #3 was readying for a cross-country trip!)That monster tender was supposedly sold to the Western NY Ry. Historical Society, custodians and occasional restorers of PRR I1s 4483, originally preserved in Wilmerding, Pa. at the Westinghouse plant. WNYRHS supposedly got her to replace the relatively puny 90F82 eight-wheel tender that 4483 was preserved with. (The 210F82 is actually as long as, if not a hair longer than, the 4483 itself--heaven help them when it comes to turning the duo on a wye!) |
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| Author: | rrmuseum [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 1:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
OK, after stopping by the office today to get the particulars, the tender is a PRR Class 90F82, orignally mated with an I1. The number is 45304 and the tender was converted into a fuel oil car with a small toolbench and owrkshop in place of the coal bunker. IT served in this MOW capacity until retired at Elkhart, IN in 1987 and found its way to the Museum here in Altoona.Thanks |
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| Author: | tomgears [ Sat Jul 23, 2005 3:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
In the early 80's there was a wrecker with a yellow PRR tender at 30th Street Station in Philadelphia. I don't know what ever happened to either. |
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| Author: | Ted Miles [ Mon Jul 25, 2005 1:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
Bob,I missed this earlier. now that you know that the tender is from a Penn RR I1. Would it be suitable for a Roenoke engine?Further, is there any movement on any any of the Diesels or the steamers?i gather from the postings a couple of months ago; that the VA Museum of Transport has to get anything they were given out of there pretty soon and it has been a couple of months.Any further news ?Ted Miles |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Jul 25, 2005 12:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Altoona tender |
Neither advocating nor decrying the proposal........... but the Altoona tender would just manage to pass as a later-era N&W tender for a Class M 4-8-0, according to the photos I'm looking at.Don't know whether the drawbar would match up or not, but.......... |
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