It is currently Mon Aug 24, 2026 10:47 pm

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Original autoracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 12:20 pm 

Joined: Mon Aug 23, 2004 8:52 am
Posts: 49
TTX has an ad on page 21 of the September issue of Trains magazine that shows a string of the old style autoracks (the kind that left the vehicles exposed) superimposed next to a train of the current, enclosed version. How long did the old type last in service, and have any been preserved?


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Original autoracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:11 pm 

Joined: Sat Aug 21, 2004 11:55 pm
Posts: 76
Location: St. Louis, MO
The Museum of Transportation, St. Louis has the first tri-level auto rack.It is an open car and was built by the Frisco.


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Original autoracks
PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:29 pm 

Joined: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:07 pm
Posts: 11
Location: Arlington, TX
I am glad to see that the first SLSF auto rack is in St. Louis. The ATSF claimed they built the first ones as well. I do not know who is right. These cars were 85ft long and most were built on TTX ownership cars but some carriers such as SLSF, ATSF, and SP had flats with their own marks. The racks (part of the car over the main deck) were owned by the carriers. Original markings were RTTX for flat deck trilevels, KTTX for low level trilevels and BTTX for flat deck bi-levels. Quickly the car lengths went to 87' and then to 89' and are now longer. The racks were scrapped and new ones built on the longer cars. 99.9% of the shorter cars were open. The primary original rack builder was Whitehead and Kales in River Rouge, MI but other firms were in the business such as Darby of Kansas City and Paragon of Novi, MI. Enclosed cars came into being in the mid-1970s. The end doors were the biggest engineering problem with the fully enclosed cars.Fred Crissey


Offline
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Original autoracks
PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 9:17 pm 

Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2004 2:22 pm
Posts: 78
Location: Saint Clair, MI
Cliff McKay wrote:
TTX has an ad on page 21 of the September issue of Trains magazine that shows a string of the old style autoracks (the kind that left the vehicles exposed) superimposed next to a train of the current, enclosed version. How long did the old type last in service, and have any been preserved?
I'm not sure if or when they were last used before being retired/rebuilt, but I have photos of one going through Lima, OH in 1993 during the FWRRHS C&O 2765 excursion. I vaguely remember seeing a couple in the late '90's, but there can't be many more out there... liablility being what it is anymore...Dave J


Offline
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 4 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 5 hours [ DST ]


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to: