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Author:  bobyar2001 [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:48 am ]
Post subject:  SR&RL Replicas

Check out this post from the Narrow Gauge discussion Forum. It appears the Brecon Mouhtain Railway in the UK is building full-size replicas of Sandy River & Rangely Lakes 10 and 23. The 10 is a 2-4-4T, the 23 was the line's heaviest 2-6-2.http://www.ngdiscussion.net/cgi-bin/NGD ... read=63136

Author:  John D [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:36 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Just curious-will these be built with knuckle couplers, pilot, etc a la American practice, or have the European coupling system? Wondering if these will look like their predecessors did, or be a Europeanized version.

Author:  Stephen Hussar [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 6:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Looking very much like an SR & RL loco herself, Brecon Mountain #2, is a 1930 Baldwin which came to Wales from South Africa. I would imagine the new engines will have a similar coupler arrangement.ImagePhoto: James Waite

Author:  P2c3689 [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Is that engine a 4-6-2 or a 4-6-0? I've been told the 2' guage 4-6-2s Baldwin built shared many common components with the 2-6-2s built for Maine Two Foot railroads.Regards,Trevor H.

Author:  christensenge [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Hi Trevor,#2 is a Baldwin 4-6-2 built for the Eastern Portland Cement Company at Chelsea, South Africa in 1916. The EPCC operated a branch line off of SAR's two-foot gauge branch to Avontuur. She has 13.5 X18" cylinders, 36" drivers, and has a tractive effort of 12,303 lbs at 75% cutoff. The engine weighs roughly 28 tons and the tender another 18 tons. She was just a "tad" bigger than SR&RL #23 (Baldwin 1913) in most respects.Best Regards,Glenn

Author:  Stephen Hussar [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 9:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Glenn, you're probably right, but I've seen it written in a couple of different places that #2 was built in 1930 -- which always sounded kind of "new" to me, and I'm curious about the discrepancy. (Trevor, a better angle on the wheel arrangement for you)Image

Author:  christensenge [ Thu Aug 04, 2005 10:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Hi Steve,You are correct. I just checked Syndney Moir's book "24 Inches Apart". EPCC was delivered in 1930. It was essentially built to the design of the NG10s provided to SAR in 1916. Sorry for the confusion.Sincerely,Glenn

Author:  Eric B. NJMT [ Fri Aug 05, 2005 8:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Is that the firebox it was built with or is that a replacment? It looks like the type used on the Pennsy locomotives (belpair i think?). She is a beauty but I would rather see the SR&RL #23 or #24 (more so the #24).-Eric

Author:  christensenge [ Sat Aug 06, 2005 12:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Hi Eric,Yup, Belpaire fireboxes as built!For me, I kinda like 'em all, with some of the Cuban Baldwins and a few others thrown in for good measure. Can't have too many 2' (or two-footable) Baldwins, now can we?Grins and Best Regards,Glenn

Author:  Eric B. NJMT [ Sat Aug 06, 2005 8:55 am ]
Post subject:  Re: SR&RL Replicas

Nope sure cant. I love baldwins in general. They all just have the perfect lines.-Eric

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