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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Fri Oct 21, 2005 9:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Dieselized Mikados |
Part of a diesel control stand in the cab of Southern 4501:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=110614And another that is actually diesel powered via the tender at Green Bay:http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=108679 |
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| Author: | EDM [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
The stand in 4501 isn't really a diesel control stand, in the propulsion sense, but rather a 26L brake stand. The brass knobs to the right side are most likely for the bell at the top, with maybe sanders and cylinder cocks below.The Southern set that engine up well for reliability in excursion service. I've never seen it in the flesh myself, but there are plenty of photos around where an additional air compressor can be seen behind the front steps on the fireman's side. I believe that there is a main reservoir line on the tender so that a trailing diesel can supply air if all the steam compressors fail.The use of a 26L stand in an excursion steam locomotive is not all that uncommon. The Blue Mountain and Reading T-1 2102 is set up that way, and just this summer I saw the same thing on WMSR 734. I'm sure there are others; some of the older air systems like 8-ET must be getting difficult to support by now, and 26, with pressure maintaining, is pretty much the industry standard.The tender trucks on the S&C 2-8-2 at Green Bay look like they are from a rendered GE 45 tonner; I would imagine there is a lot more GE and Cummins content above the frame. Or am seeing a pair of Bethlehem tender boosters squeezed under a single tender? Either way, neat- |
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| Author: | Gary Gray [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
611 and 1218 are set up the same way with the 26 brakestand. The NS Steam department did this so that parts availability on the road would not be a problem. If memory serves me correctly, one of the knobs was a cigarette lighter. At the time the conversion was done in the early 80's, then Master Mechanic, Steam Doug Karhan was still a smoker. |
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| Author: | G. W. Laepple [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 11:59 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
You mean he couldn't find another heat source nearby to light up? ;-) |
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| Author: | softwerkslex [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
Hey, nice girlie ads framing the photo of 102.As inoccent as dieselizing these steamers seemed to the owners, I believe the operations were quite punishing to the surviving running gear. I believe the engines at Big Stone Mountain were done this way, and their running gear is ruined. |
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| Author: | gmray [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 9:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
The 4 push-pull knobs on the right side are for -Top - BellTop Middle - Forward Sand (Front Driver)Middle - Forward Sand (Main Driver)Bottom Middle - Reverse Sand (Rear Driver)Bottom - Driver Brakes Cut-Out ("Mountain" Valve)Cylinder cocks are still operated by an old fashion double seated globe valve.The bell still has a cord for manual operation (or to slow it down when the ringer has it doing loops). |
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| Author: | Jeff Badger [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
Back in the late 60's and early 70's the Clinchfield RR ran fan trips using the 10 wheeler #1 with a stand used to operate one or more "B" unit covered wagons to assist in the grades. The engine was retired and donated to B&O museum. Not sure if the stand is still mounted in it as I haven't been back to Baltimore yet.Jeff Badger  [/url]
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| Author: | Frisco1522 [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
Frisco 1522 also has a 26L brake stand, along with MU controls to control a trailing diesel unit. The modern brake valve makes the engine more friendly to pilot crews and on one occasion, we swapped the valve out on the road in 45 minutes due to a leak. Having spare valves in the tool car was a plus.The MU controls were very handy also, as we made use of the trailing diesel on the BNSF Employee Appreciation Specials, both for air and for an occasional assist to reach track speed quicker. Best of both worlds. |
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| Author: | Gary Gray [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
Back when #1 was running they used to call the B-units "Clinchfield baggage cars". |
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| Author: | Boyd Owens [ Sat Oct 22, 2005 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
Mid-Continent's C&NW 1385 had an EMD supplied control box mounted in her cab during her "Goodwill Ambassador" days on the C&NW in the early 80s. Interestingly, the box was labeled with "N&W 611" on it. The box isn't in her any more, but Mid-Continent still has it, and the aux tender still has the mu box on it. 
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| Author: | Txhighballer [ Mon Oct 24, 2005 12:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Dieselized Mikados |
I lit my cigar off the firebox door once........I do not advise it............ |
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