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Author:  bobyar2001 [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 12:56 am ]
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Western Maryland 2-8-0 736, at Baltimore in 1934:http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?march04/03-12-04/wm736.jpg
Author:  Kevin Gillespie [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:02 am ]
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Unfortunately, only two Western Maryland steam locomotives escaped scrapping in the 1950's, 4-6-2 #202 preserved in a Hagerstown park, and Shay #6, which was donated to the B&O Museum. In 1981, #6 was sent to the Cass Scenic Railroad for restoration to operation in exchange for Greenbrier Chet and Elk Shay #1, and 0-4-0T #4.Western Maryland Scenic Railway #734, is really ex-Lake Superior and Ishpeming 2-8-0 #34. While similar in size to the original WM #734, she is in fact a stand in, albeit a very good one. Her identical twin ex-LS&I #35 survives at the Illinois Railway Museum.
Author:  bobyar2001 [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:52 am ]
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It would be interesting to post photos of each for comparison.
Author:  John Bohon [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:27 pm ]
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The biggest visual difference between the 736 and WMSR 734 are the piston valves on the 734. The 736 has slide valves. The 734 also has smaller drivers and a larger tender. The 736 was the last WM class H-7a and the 734 more closely resembles WM class H-8. It is amazing how many different classes of locomotives the WMSR 734 actually shares some similarity to. It has the small drivers and piston valves of a H-8. The sand dome, which I think is original to the 34, appears to be very close to the sand domes on the H-7 class engines. The big tender gives her the look of an 800 series H-9. The only way I can think of for WM Scenic to have built a better stand in for a real WM engine would be to take the prints and build one from scratch. If you are not a WM steam fan it is difficult to tell if the 734 was a real WM engine or not.After taking a second look at the photo of the 736 the engine behind it apears to be another H-7a. The last number on the cab wall is the only one visible and is a 4. That means there is a one in four chance the engine in the background is the real WM 734. John Bohon
Author:  Don C. [ Sun Nov 06, 2005 3:32 pm ]
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Kevin, Don't forget OHCR #33. Yet another sister.Don C.
Author:  wm303 [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:11 am ]
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Did 736 come from Lake Superior and Ishpheming also? : )
Author:  Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:36 am ]
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It's been done; the detail differences are there, albeit quite minor. The biggest actual difference is driver size; "734" has 50-inch drivers while the WM 734 had 60-inch drivers. Aside from that, however, as others have said, the only way to come closer would have been to start from scratch, and the British A1 project to build a LNER A1 Pacific from scratch has been at it about as long (or maybe longer) than the WMSR has been operating "734"!
Author:  John Bohon [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:36 pm ]
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The 736 was built for the WM in November 1911 by Alco-Richmond. WM sold her for scrap in May 1950. If you meant the 734 then yes it was LS&I 34. WMSR added the 7 when they made a WM engine out of it.Does anyone know if LS&I 33, 34, and 35 are identical or were there differences?John Bohon
Author:  Kevin Gillespie [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:59 pm ]
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No. WM #736 was a genuine WM locomotive photographed in service during the steam era, and unfortunately scrapped like all but two other WM steamers in the 1950's. When the WMSR purchased ex-LS&I #34, they noticed its similarity in size to the original WM 700's, and came up with #734.
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