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| Author: | P2c3689 [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 12:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | CV 4-6-0 #220? |
We've seen a lot of obscure photos posted lately. I've never seen a photo anywhere of the former Central Vermont 4-6-0 (#220) that's preserved in Shelbourne, Vermont. Anyone seen one? Regards |
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| Author: | steaminfo [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
P2c3689 wrote: We've seen a lot of obscure photos posted lately. I've never seen a photo anywhere of the former Central Vermont 4-6-0 (#220) that's preserved in Shelbourne, Vermont. Anyone seen one? No...and I've written the museum several times requesting a photo for www.steamlocomotive.info. The only information on the museum's website is: http://www.shelburnemuseum.org/building ... .php?id=15
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| Author: | wilkinsd [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
There are several photos, dating from the 1970s of the 220 in Robert C. Jones' "Central Vermont: A Yankee Tradition." It is a seven volume history of the CV, and I think the photos of the 220 appear in one of the later volumes. The book also has good photos of the CV business car "Grand Isle." |
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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
Having worked on that engine for 10 years before I moved to NY State, I think I have a few photos somewhere, but all are rather dark. The elegant shelter, which has protected it since the 1970s, does not allow much light on the locomotive. The shelter was designed to imitate W. Seward Webb's private car shelter that once was located near the Shelburne depot. That structure had two tracks, as the Webbs often had visiting friends who came aboard their own private cars. The depot was moved to the Museum site in the late-1950s and sits across from the train, in good condition. The nearby freight shed is a replica, built in the early 1960s, housing the wooden Baldwin replica of "Old Ironsides" (built for the worlds fair of 1893) and "Gerty Buck", a steam inspection car from the Woodstock Railway.We tried for three different years to obtain ISTEA funding to overhaul the locomotive, but ultimately found out our applications were denied because the Museum, though non-profit, charges admission. The CVR, under General Manager Chris Burger (who had previously put together the 1385 tours on the C&NW) supported our efforts and even let me work on the engine one day a week on company time. In 1995, however, the CV was sold and Burger departed. I lasted just over three years with the new yahoos in charge, and was actually glad to be fired, along with most of the other ex-CV employees that the ICC required them to take with the sale.After the ISTEA grants were obviously not going to come our way, we concentrated on reassembly, and continued with stabilization and cosmetic work. That work continued after my departure, with two of the restoration group and some help from Museum employees. Work acomplished includes polishing and greasing of all journals on the engine, tender and passenger car; smokebox, firebox, ashpan and tender interior cleaning; cylinder and valve greasing; plus removal, cleaning and testing of the air compressor, turbogenerator and all brake components, and window replacement with safety glass. Also, repair of steam and air gauges (service donated by a successor of the Ashcroft Co.); removal of all remaining asbestos, and since my departure, quite a bit of repainting. The cab backhead reassembly is almost done, and the proper Roman numbers on the cab sides have been reapplied. We previously had done a visual inspection of the boiler interior, and the firebox was ultrasounded by a boilerman whose credentials have since come into question. During jacket replacement in the 1970s, some unknowing workmen had burned off studs to boiler steps and handrail posts, enlarging the holes beyond the threads, then replacing same with threaded rod tacked on. Those holes would have to be repaired, with FRA-approved patches, along with any other problems.The Museum has two full time professional employees designated to maintain the steamboat Ticonderoga, but when they have slack time, they work on the train also. All the Museum people were great to work with, and security was never a problem, as the place is under 24-hour guard.The Museum is a really neat place, having been started by the Webb's daughter as a place to display her vast collections of antiques, but attendence is down considerably in recent years. I was a bit shocked this last September to find many of the buildings unmanned and a general ghostlike feel to the place. Once the state's biggest tourist draw, it has been surpassed by the main Ben & Jerry's ice cream plant at Waterbury.I'm called for a train right now, but will try to find some photos when I return from Montreal. |
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| Author: | Erich Russ [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
steaminfo wrote: P2c3689 wrote: We've seen a lot of obscure photos posted lately. I've never seen a photo anywhere of the former Central Vermont 4-6-0 (#220) that's preserved in Shelbourne, Vermont. Anyone seen one? No...and I've written the museum several times requesting a photo for www.steamlocomotive.info. The only information on the museum's website is: http://www.shelburnemuseum.org/building ... .php?id=15 |
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| Author: | Erich Russ [ Mon Nov 07, 2005 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
And here are just a few photos with some text mentioning a certain familiar name:http://www.kittywerner.com/resume/Project220.htmlErich |
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| Author: | P2c3689 [ Tue Nov 08, 2005 11:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
Bobyar,That's a sad story. Sounds like the engine is maintained it pretty good shape. I'll have to get up there to see it sometime.What RR do you work for now Bobyar?Regards,Trevor H. |
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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Sun Nov 20, 2005 9:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: CV 4-6-0 #220? |
Sorry, I've looked briefly and haven't found a 220 photo yet, but will continue as I have time. I know I have some, it's just a matter of finding them in my stuff, which hasn't been well organized since moving six years ago. I only get about two days off per month. Such is the nature of RR work on the road..Bob |
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