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Author:  JohnG [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 12:52 am ]
Post subject:  Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Looking for current status of the following ex Hawaiian Plantation locomotives - any news on their current status to share?? Photo??K&WRR "Kalakaua" / HRRCo "Leslie" (CALIF) 0-4-2T (BLW cn4096)KRR "Claus Spreckels" (Maui) 0-4-2TB (BLW cn6102)PMCo "Lahaina" 0-4-2RT (BLW cn 6397)HC&S / MSCo "Waiahole" (Lanai) 0-4-2T (BLW cn6586)PMCo "Launiopoko" (CALIF) 0-4-2 (BLW cn 16390)WSCo "Pokaa" (aka Chloe) (CALIF) 0-4-2RT (BLW 30340)GFCo "Wahiawa" (Kauai) 0-6-2T (BLW 54719)Thanks!
Author:  Brian Norden [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:25 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Ward Kimball's "Chloe", the former WSCo "Pokaa", is destined for the Orange Empire Railway Museum sometime in the future. It is still occasionally operated by the Kimball family and their friends.The locomotive was restyled years ago for Ward Kimball to look like a 1880's locomotive.For more information and a 1997 photo follow this link:OERM 3-foot Narrow Gauge Collection
Author:  wesp [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 9:05 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
According to Steamlocomotove.info, Wahiawa is in storage as part of the Grove Farm collection near Puhi on Kauai. I visited this operation a few years ago and may have a photo of the engine.Wesley
Author:  crij [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 3:08 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Don't forget about Hawian Railway Co #5, 2-4-2 Baldwin that is operational in Kent, Ct at the Connecticut Antique Machinery Association. IIRC she was last stored in California, and is privately owned.Imagehttp://ctamachinery.com/Regards,Rich C.
Author:  John Redden [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 8:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
We visited the Grove Farm plantation in 2002. They had three Baldwin 0-6-2Ts and one smaller (possibly 0-4-2T ?) engine, of German manufacture.The German engine, and two of the three Baldwins were operable, according to one of the caretakers. I have a picture of the builders plate of BLW 58557, which was, I believe, one of the operable engines. I didn't record any of the other serial numbers. Also, my recollection is that only the German engine had a name - "Kaipu"; the Baldwins had only road numbers (not certain about this, though).JR
Author:  Ed Kelley [ Wed Nov 09, 2005 10:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
The German locomotive is "Paulo"; the three Baldwins are "Kaipu", "Wainiha", and "Wahiawa". As of two years ago, the latter was not operable.
Author:  M Austin [ Fri Nov 11, 2005 1:47 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Wahiawa has yet to be restored. Because Wahiawa and Wainiha are virtually identical, the Fowler steam plough is next in line of the steam equipment. The new track on the Lihue Plantation r-o-w is the current priority. The Fowler needs a new boiler. While we were restoring Kaipu, we popped the water tank off Wahiawa one morning to check the boiler exterior and found it to be uniformly mediocre. Kaipu was sidelined by a toasted firebox in 1953 so Grove Farm bought Wahiawa from Lihue Plantation. Wahiawa was condemned for a bad firebox in 1956 so GF bought Wainiha from LP for just the 1957 season. Wainiha got a new boiler in 1941 and was the easiest and first to be put back into steam.Paulo, an 1887 Hohenzollern mechanical sleaze bucket, was put on display in Koloa in 1929 and is a 2-4-0T.Claus on Maui is in cocooned storage except for an annual one day display, usually in August. County politics held up construction of the intended display building until the Hawaii economy tanked in 1991 and there was no money then to build a suitable display. PHOTOS
Author:  JohnG [ Fri Nov 11, 2005 2:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Thank you all for the updates on the various Hawaiian Survivors!K&WRR "Kalakaua" / HRRCo "Leslie" (CALIF) 0-4-2T (BLW cn4096) This little loco was used in movie "Hello Dolly" and stood in for a Elevated Train. Its current status is unknown, but believed to be on the Woodland Hills CA area?? She is also the oldest Hawaiian Survivor built in 1879!PMCo "Lahaina" 0-4-2RT (BLW cn 6397) Unique here is the gauge was 303/4 on the PMCo Ry, she was sold in 1952 and belonged to Robert Day and then HW Brunskill both of southern California. Reports are that she was damaged in a BelAir fire in 1961. Current status and whereabouts are ???PMCo "Launiopoko" (CALIF) 0-4-2 (BLW cn 16390) Also a PMCo locomotive and same post Hawaii owners.... Unknown status??Any info on these three, also also if the 24" 0-4-2T "Waiahole" is still located on Lanai?? It was photographed by the late Jay Conde in the 1970s and also noted in some references in the early 1990... status??Thanks - Aloha
Author:  survivingworldsteam [ Sat Nov 12, 2005 10:27 pm ]
Post subject:  Fowler Ploughing Engine in Hawaii!?!?
You mean to tell me there is a Fowler ploughing engine in Hawaii?!?! I assume you are referring to the heavy duty steam tractors (traction engines) with the big cable reel under the belly; and used either in tandem or some other arrangement to pull a plow on wheels back and forth.I would very much like to know more about, and would also greatly appreciate a picture I can use if possible.-James Hefner Hebrews 10:20a Surviving World Steam Project Surviving World Steam Project
Author:  JohnG [ Sun Nov 13, 2005 2:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Hello Matt -Thank you for the update on Grove Farms - Are there scheduled days when the RR equipemnt is on public display?Please also back channel me or email me, I have a few off board questions I would like to ask you. Thanks in advance.(Rolajohn@aol.com)
Author:  JohnG [ Sun Nov 13, 2005 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Plantation Locomotives - Hawaiian steam
Thanks for sharing the pic of HRy5! Her and the "Olomana" are the two east coast Hawaiian Locomotives! There is also one operating in Japan that formerly ran at Raoring Camp (Felton CA).I am working on a small book (hopefully) project, and documenting the 28 Surviving Hawaiin Plantation Locomotives. As it progresses, I share its progress on the board. Any updates or news on these locomotives is greatly approeciated.
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