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| Author: | R.L.Kennedy [ Wed Aug 01, 2001 11:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | fleet narrow gauge 45ton steam engines |
I am looking for post or link re: an old fleet of 24" gauge steam locomotives late model very heavy 45 ton for a steel mill? in PA ? These were sold off in a batch and remarks about their subsequent use etc. Posted in last month or so. Search was no help. Can anyone help? http://www.trainweb.org/oldtimetrains oldtimetrains@rrmail.com |
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| Author: | Dave [ Thu Aug 02, 2001 7:20 am ] |
| Post subject: | J&L Porters? |
I believe you may be thinking of some very heavy 23" gage Porter 0-4-0Ts built for Jones and Laughlin steel. They had huge slab frames, thick steel plates in front of the smokebox, piston valves and roller bearings. Several of these heavy hogs were salvaged by Crown Metal Products and rusted for decades near Clairton, PA at their shop. I believe Rick Rowland has some more recent history - perhaps he can contribute. Dave irondave@bellsouth.net |
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| Author: | Rick Rowlands [ Thu Aug 02, 2001 8:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: J&L Porters? |
Several years ago the 58 and 59 were in storage at Benkart Rigging in Cranberry, PA. They were held in lieu of payment when the owner didn't come up with the moving costs. I found out about them and Mr. Benkart was ready to cut them up, so I made a deal to buy the 58. He was going to scrap the 59 so we dismantled her and saved the boiler and running gear. I ultimately decided not to buy the 58 as I didn't have a place to put it, but we did manage to save the boiler. I think the 58 was sold to another party as well as the running gear. But dont fret, about all that was scrapped from the 59 was the impossibly heavy frame and those huge 12' thick drivers. The boiler to the 59 is for sale, and if anyone is interested we have the drawing for it. We thought that the boiler would be useful for someone building a samll three footer of a bit more reasonable proportions. Whoever bought the 58 would also have gotten the erection drawings for the locomotive, which Benkart had. rick@todengine.org |
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| Author: | Jim Robinson [ Thu Aug 02, 2001 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: J&L Porters? |
The discussion of the J&L 0-4-0T's was on Tom Gears' Steam Railroading discussion board. A photo of these locomotives taken at Elizabeth, PA in 1985 by Steve Barry can be seen at the below link. http://www.daylightimages.com/slides/41059.html |
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| Author: | James Hefner [ Thu Aug 02, 2001 3:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: J&L Porters? |
That photograph brings up a question. Where did the other J&L 0-4-0Ts go? > The discussion of the J&L 0-4-0T's was > on Tom Gears' Steam Railroading discussion > board. A photo of these locomotives taken at > Elizabeth, PA in 1985 by Steve Barry can be > seen at the below link. Surviving World Steam Locomotives james1@pernet.net |
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| Author: | Jason Midyette [ Fri Aug 03, 2001 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: J&L Porters? |
> That photograph brings up a question. Where > did the other J&L 0-4-0Ts go? I think that one of them may be in Mead, Colorado. There is a privately owned locomotive there that sure matches the description. It was previously stored in Boulder CO. Jason Midyette amjm@indra.com |
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