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Author:  Joshua K. Blay [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Ex OC FP9s in Transit

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=146386

Author:  Tim Botti [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex OC FP9s in Transit

I'll be honest, that pic's a little depressing for me to look at.

On the positive note, at least they're going to a good home.

TB

Author:  Benjamin True [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex OC FP9s in Transit

Out of curiosity, does any one know why CP bought these two?
Just available?

It just sounds strange to me that such a large railroad would some to such a small one looking for power....

Author:  teqdiver [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:12 pm ]
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Yeah, I was at Morgan Run the day they left. I was working on 1293. They were sitting just outside the door to the engine house for a bit. I turned around to do some wrenching and they were gone... I was kicking myself for not snapping a quick picture.

Ryan

Author:  Joshua K. Blay [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex OC FP9s in Transit

Someone on another website was reporting that CPR will not be rebuilding their 1400/1401, part current exec/excursion F power, hence the purchase of these units. Anyone know the plans for the 1400/1401? (one if not both original CPR unlike these CN/VIA/OC units).

Joshua

Author:  k5ahudson [ Mon Jun 05, 2006 10:41 pm ]
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Joshua K. Blay wrote:
Anyone know the plans for the 1400/1401? (one if not both original CPR unlike these CN/VIA/OC units).

They have no plans on getting rid of 1401 for now, but 1400 is toast! It has already been stripped of many of its internal parts.

Author:  johnacraft [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:53 am ]
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Benjamin True wrote:
Out of curiosity, does any one know why CP bought these two?
Just available?

It just sounds strange to me that such a large railroad would some to such a small one looking for power....


My understanding is that it's less expensive to purchase these, than to overhaul the current Royal Canadian Pacific A-units.

Author:  pm-man [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:59 am ]
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Ryan-
Don't feel alone; I was working on the same engine (probably in the same spot) the day they arrived. Funny --- never figured I'd see them leave so soon. Then again, there's a lot of things that, well..... ah, forget it.


TJG

Author:  Tom Cornillie [ Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:58 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Ex OC FP9s in Transit

It is my understanding that the ex-OC units were among a group of FP-9's that VIA had rebuilt in the early 1990's to cover a few of their remaining non-mainline services. This rebuilding included self-contained HEP generators (hence the mufflers on the rear of the units). I do not know what else this rebuilding entailed.

Likewise, the ex-Nebokta units did not pass through such a rebuilding program. (for those interested, I recommend asking at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LocoNotes/ )

Here is data on the heritage of the ex-Nebokta units: from

http://membrane.com/~elmer/rail/units/f_units.html - which remains an execellent resource for tracking F-units.

CP FP7A Canadian Canada Active A520 4/53
1400 Pacific ex NEB 55, ex VIA 6550, ex VIA 1400,
ex CP 1400, nee CP 4099

CP FP9A Canadian Canada Active A1401 7/58
1401 Pacifc ex NEB 54, ex VIA 6541, ex CN 6541

CP F9B Canadian Canada Active A629 1/55
1900 Pacific ex NEB 66, ex VIA 6612, ex CN 6612

Tom Cornillie

Author:  Randy Gustafson [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 4:29 pm ]
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Are these the F's that came out of the Gettysburg RR operation?

Author:  k5ahudson [ Wed Jun 07, 2006 11:06 pm ]
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Randy Gustafson wrote:
Are these the F's that came out of the Gettysburg RR operation?

No. I believe OCRR purchased them directly from VIA two or three years ago. They were rebuilt and painted in PRR liverly by the Ontario Northland Railway shortly after they purchased them. I may be wrong about it being ONR, but I know the work was all done in Ontario before leaving Canada.

Author:  Michael Huhn [ Thu Jun 08, 2006 12:41 pm ]
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The ex-Gettsburg F7s are #s 1000 and 1001, currently in the Morgan Run deadline. I have read on a message board that OC will fix these two up for the NRHS convention, but that's not been fully confirmed.

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