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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Sat Dec 23, 2006 9:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Taken in 1967: http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?j ... n_MN_a.jpg http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?j ... n_MN_b.jpg |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Sat Dec 23, 2006 11:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Is OIM #806 the oldest 0-8-0 in existance in North America? She certainly looks pre-World War I and pre-USRA. Les |
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| Author: | survivingworldsteam [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 1:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Les Beckman wrote: Is OIM #806 the oldest 0-8-0 in existance in North America? She certainly looks pre-World War I and pre-USRA.
Les With a build date of 1910, OIM #806 is pre-World War I and pre-USRA. But, she is ranked #6 in terms of age; oldest is "Memnon" (B&O #57), built by New Castle Man. in 1848 and preserved at the B&O Railroad Museum. -James Hefner Hebrews 10:20a |
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| Author: | Bob Kutella [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 6:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
So, what is the NEWEST preserved 0-8-0 in the US? Bob Kutella, feeling it may not be that new. |
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| Author: | bbunge [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 9:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Quote: oldest is "Memnon" (B&O #57), built by New Castle Man. in 1848 and preserved at the B&O Railroad Museum.
According the volunteer I talked to this past Thursday, Memnon, B&O camelback 217 and William Mason are in the museum's new shop. Bob |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
survivingworldsteam wrote: Les Beckman wrote: Is OIM #806 the oldest 0-8-0 in existance in North America? She certainly looks pre-World War I and pre-USRA. Les With a build date of 1910, OIM #806 is pre-World War I and pre-USRA. But, she is ranked #6 in terms of age; oldest is "Memnon" (B&O #57), built by New Castle Man. in 1848 and preserved at the B&O Railroad Museum. -James Hefner Hebrews 10:20a Jim - I must admit that I forgot about "Memnon" at the B&O Railroad Museum. Still hard to believe that there are four OTHER 0-8-0's left that are also older than Oliver Iron Mining's #806. Les |
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| Author: | J.David [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Dear Les: I count 3 (three) 0-8-0 tender locomotives older than the 806 (built 6/1910): Memnon -1848, KCS 1023 -1906 and CPR 6947-1908 (the last two began their careers as 2-8-0s). Virginian 4 is close, built 8/1910, two months after 806... Best regards, J.David |
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| Author: | Ron Goldfeder [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 4:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
Seven of the Grand Trunk Western 0-8-0s from the Northwest Steel & Wire fleet have Sept 1929 construction dates. |
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| Author: | softwerkslex [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
Why was it none of the 1950's built N&W 0-8-0 switchers survived, "low mileage" and all? |
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| Author: | BILL [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 10:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
I'd have to guess PP&L 0-8-0 fireless #4094 would be the newest......built Jan. 1940. |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
softwerkslex wrote: Why was it none of the 1950's built N&W 0-8-0 switchers survived, "low mileage" and all?
The scrapping of 0-8-0 #244 (I THINK that was its number) was a real tragedy. She was the last new steam locomotive put into service on a common carrier railroad in the United States. I believe she was built in 1953. But there was a rush by the N&W to get ALL steam scrapped once the decision was made to dieselize. Very shortsighted! Les |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Sun Dec 24, 2006 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
BILL wrote: I'd have to guess PP&L 0-8-0 fireless #4094 would be the newest......built Jan. 1940.
Bill - The PP&L 0-8-0 may have been newer than the surviving GTW 0-8-0's (with #8380 at Illinois Railway Museum being THE newest), but #4094 was not technically a steam locomotive generating its own power. She MAY however, be the newest surviving Fireless locomotive built. Anyone know THAT for sure? Les |
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| Author: | Les Beckman [ Mon Dec 25, 2006 12:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
J.David wrote: Dear Les:
I count 3 (three) 0-8-0 tender locomotives older than the 806 (built 6/1910): Memnon -1848, KCS 1023 -1906 and CPR 6947-1908 (the last two began their careers as 2-8-0s). Virginian 4 is close, built 8/1910, two months after 806... Best regards, J.David J. David - Thanks! I guess I myself would have to disqualify KCS #1023 and CPR #6947 as they were not originally BUILT as 0-8-0's. Virginian #4 is another matter. The "early" as-built 0-8-0's really looked a lot different than the USRA 0-8-0's, and copies. I am really surprised that any survived. Wish the one at the Indian Hill & Iron Range had (ex-NYC). Ever photorgaph that one? Have a great Christmas! Les |
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| Author: | J.David [ Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Oliver Iron Mining 806 |
Dear Les: I saw it in operation once when I was about 10 while riding to Chicago on the 'Central (but no photo). I helped RJ move some tires out of their shop and into his bread truck. Typical Jensen, no machines, just pry bars, blocks, a "comealong" and a lot of muscle. Have a nice Holiday! J.David |
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| Author: | J.David [ Mon Dec 25, 2006 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Newest 0-8-0 |
Dear Les: If my memory is correct (sorry, no copy of the Directory handy), the newest fireless is the one the Smithsonian has at their vast storage facility in Maryland. I beleive that it is a Davenport-Bessler 0-4-0F built in the mid-1950s' and ran at Potomac Electric Co. in Washington D.C. J.David |
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