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 Post subject: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roster
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:43 pm 

I will beg, borrow or whatever for an equipment roster (current or all-time) of the recently defunct Kettle Moraine Railway. Post, anyone?

Also, what was the association of owner Richard Hinebaugh with Mid-Continent? Were the 2 DL&W "Boonton" steel coaches formerly at Mid-Continent prior to the start-up of the Kettle Moraine? Just curious; if anyone wishes to share, I would be most grateful.


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Fri Nov 02, 2001 11:56 pm 

> I will beg, borrow or whatever for an
> equipment roster (current or all-time) of
> the recently defunct Kettle Moraine Railway.
> Post, anyone?

K.R. - I too am looking for a complete equipment roster; can anyone supply it?

> Also, what was the association of owner
> Richard Hinebaugh with Mid-Continent? Were
> the 2 DL&W "Boonton" steel
> coaches formerly at Mid-Continent prior to
> the start-up of the Kettle Moraine? Just
> curious; if anyone wishes to share, I would
> be most grateful.

I believe there were three ex-DL&W "Boonton" coaches on the train but since I rode the caboose, it is possible that one of the coaches might have had a different origin.

Les Beckman (HVRM)

midlandblb@cs.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 12:09 am 

> K.R. - I too am looking for a complete
> equipment roster; can anyone supply it?

> I believe there were three ex-DL&W
> "Boonton" coaches on the train but
> since I rode the caboose, it is possible
> that one of the coaches might have had a
> different origin.

> Les Beckman (HVRM)

Here's a partial list from 1972:

2-6-2 # 9, Jan 1901 BLW, xMcCloud River, xxYreka Western 9, xxxAmador Central 9, xxxx Nezperce 9

1000 CGW gas-electric loco (this may have been the McKeen car reblt by EMC in 1928, and converted to a loco in 1958)

#3 1943 Davenport Gas-mechanical loco

Soo line wood caboose

DL&W Boonton car 573 (KMRY #7)
DL&W Boonton car 583 (KMRY #8)

#1923 Northern Pacific Ry. coach

KMRY combine (DL&W Boonton?)


hpincus@mindspring.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 4:22 am 

> Here's a partial list from 1972:

> 1000 CGW gas-electric loco (this may have
> been the McKeen car reblt by EMC in 1928,
> and converted to a loco in 1958)

The Chicago Great Western locomotive is a former McKeen car that was rebuilt to be the power car for the line's "Blue Bird" train of rebuilt McKeen cars.

A year or two ago the Nevada State RR Museum bought the locomotive. The loco has become a parts source for the Museum's restoration of the V&T McKeen car. The rear (trail) truck will be used on the restored car. The people at NSRM have said that the body is contributing other parts to the project..

Brian Norden

bnorden@gateway.net


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 10:58 am 

I believe that the combine is CNJ 300 class with the endlsheets removed to simulate a Boonton car.

Steve Zuiderveen

> Here's a partial list from 1972:

> 2-6-2 # 9, Jan 1901 BLW, xMcCloud River,
> xxYreka Western 9, xxxAmador Central 9, xxxx
> Nezperce 9

> 1000 CGW gas-electric loco (this may have
> been the McKeen car reblt by EMC in 1928,
> and converted to a loco in 1958)

> #3 1943 Davenport Gas-mechanical loco

> Soo line wood caboose

> DL&W Boonton car 573 (KMRY #7)
> DL&W Boonton car 583 (KMRY #8)

> #1923 Northern Pacific Ry. coach

> KMRY combine (DL&W Boonton?)


SZuidervee@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 1:13 pm 

> I believe that the combine is CNJ 300 class
> with the endlsheets removed to simulate a
> Boonton car.

> Steve Zuiderveen
Additional equipment that was on the property last weekend were two wooden cabooses (one appeared to be former Milwaukee Road and another center cupola car). A former Soo Line baggage RPO, former CB&Q suburban coach lettered "Waukesha Western" from the depot restaurant at Waukesha, WI, heavyweight baggage car of NP or GN ancestory and a wooden coach. There is a wooden combine (carbody only, no trucks, etc) which is sitting on the ground at the west end of the property and used for storage. I believe someone earlier mentioned the other locomotives - the disassembled 2-6-2 and the 65 ton GE centercab diesel. The wooden coach which was with the W&OV 4-6-0, is inside the shop building. I believe the number on it is 799. Hope this helps although it is not too specific.

old_fxrs@msn.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sat Nov 03, 2001 5:42 pm 

When I was up there the last weekend of operation the car behind the outside frame boxcar (open-air car) had UPRR stamped on the trucks. Though they could have been switched out. It was a combination coach.

ablemanscurve@hotmail.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2001 12:16 pm 

> When I was up there the last weekend of
> operation the car behind the outside frame
> boxcar (open-air car) had UPRR stamped on
> the trucks. Though they could have been
> switched out. It was a combination coach.

I know for a fact that Steve swapped trucks on some of his cars, so do not go by the casting marks on the truck pedestatls when figuring the provenance of his cars.


SZuidervee@aol.com


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2001 10:51 pm 

Steve,

If I recall correctly, CNJ combine 300 was purchased by the Quakertown & Eastern excursion group in Pennsylvania during the 1960's. While the rest of their ex-RDG coach fleet was sold in 1974, with much of it now at Spencer, this was the only non-RDG coach they owned.

> I believe that the combine is CNJ 300 class
> with the endlsheets removed to simulate a
> Boonton car.

> Steve Zuiderveen


  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wanted: Kettle Moraine Railway Equipment Roste
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2001 12:29 pm 

> Steve,

> If I recall correctly, CNJ combine 300 was
> purchased by the Quakertown & Eastern
> excursion group in Pennsylvania during the
> 1960's. While the rest of their ex-RDG coach
> fleet was sold in 1974, with much of it now
> at Spencer, this was the only non-RDG coach
> they owned.

I do not know the exact coach number, I just recognize it as being one of that series of car; basically a CNJ 10-1100 that is a combine. However, the Private Passenger Car Annual for 1980 list the three coaches as CNJ 300, DL&W 573, and DL&W 583.

Steve Zuiderveen


SZuidervee@aol.com


  
 
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