C&O 490

bobyar2001 · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 5:34 pm

Unknown place or date:

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?a ... c+o490.jpg

It was built as a 4-6-2, like the 493 here, which was also streamlined later:

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?a ... +o493c.jpg

rjenkins · **Posted:** Thu Nov 30, 2006 9:10 pm

Did they keep the smokebox-mounted air pumps under the streamlined casing when they rebuilt them? I always thought it was unusual that the streamlining raked outwards above the pilot (instead of inwards as it did on so many other streamlined steamers), but comparing these two photos, I can see how the profile of 493 with all of those smokebox appliances might suggest the final streamlined form as seen on 490. Looks like they must have changed the feedwater heater though.

bobyar2001 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:54 pm

Original appearance, as a 4-6-2:

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?j ... Xo490a.jpg

C&OK42705 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2007 4:33 pm

The F-19's 4-6-2's were converted in the Huntington shops starting around 1946 and finished in 1947 and then became L1 Hudsons. 490-493 got the streamlined covering and 494 didnt. The L1's and M1 turbine were made for the ill-fated Chessie that never became. Orginally they were all Vermillion Orange to "minus 494" and later changed to yellow as seen today at the B&O museum. To me C&O had the finest steam power in the world. Largest passenger locomotive and largest frieght "no need to open the can of worms here lol" N&W A and Big Boy both were fine engines.

Scott

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Chesapeake & Ohio had all four of the "modern" steam types: 4-6-4, 2-8-4, 2-10-4 and 4-8-4. I believe the Santa Fe was the only other road that had all four types. BUT, the C&O also had 2-6-6-6's, one of the only roads that had steam power with a six wheel trailing truck!

Les

C&OK42705 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2007 6:56 pm

They also had the heaviest Hudson's to the last batch from Baldwin the L2a. Pretty much all the hudsons were scrapped in Chicago. As Les said only the C&O and VGN used the 2-6-6-6 type C&O Alleghany and VGN Blueridge. Interesting information i heard about not to long ago. The C&O was planning to have a fleet of the M1 Turbines to pull freight traffic. That is one engine i wish they had saved. Only lasting from 47-49 and scrapped in 1950 2 of them were in Huntington stored 500-502 and 501 was at Clifton Forge. Then sold back to Baldwin then traction motors sold for over 30,000 a piece and later used on some other engines.

Scott

Fitz · **Joined:** Sun Aug 22, 2004 7:46 pm **Posts:** 188

The New York Central operated all four types. Aside from the mere 26 4-8-4's, they had 275 4-6-4's, 600 4-8-2's, and 62 2-8-4's.

C&OK42705 · **Posted:** Sun Mar 04, 2007 9:25 pm

You'd think that the NYC would have saved at least one J1e or J3 hudson and a 4-8-4. But two 4-8-2 mohawks are better than nothing

Scott

Les Beckman · **Joined:** Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:25 pm **Posts:** 6482

Fitz wrote:

The New York Central operated all four types. Aside from the mere 26 4-8-4's, they had 275 4-6-4's, 600 4-8-2's, and 62 2-8-4's.

Fitz-

Yes, but no 2-10-4's (the other "modern" wheel arrangement.) The NYC had a vast fleet of 4-8-2 Mohawks but the original design for the type goes back to about 1911, as I recall. Come to think of it, the first one may have been built for the C&O!

Les