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Author:  bobyar2001 [ Sun Mar 11, 2007 10:22 pm ]
Post subject:  South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

If the caption is correct, it is at the Buckinghamshire Railway Centre:

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?s ... ge0036.jpg

Also ran across this impressive photo of the Red Devil 4-8-4, no date or place. Not sure if it is still operable.

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?s ... anColl.jpg

Author:  Gavin Hamilton [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

3405 is still at the Bucks Railway Centre - it certainly was yesterday (it arrived in 1991) - the only thing that's changed since that picture is that the vegetation behind it has "fallen down"....

Author:  survivingworldsteam [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

bobyar2001 wrote:
Also ran across this impressive photo of the Red Devil 4-8-4, no date or place. Not sure if it is still operable.

http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?s ... anColl.jpg


My understanding is that the Red Devil (SAR #3450) is still operable; but many of the firebox changes made by David Wardale have since been reversed.

-James Hefner
Hebrews 10:20a

Surviving World Steam Project

Author:  Ted Miles [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 12:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

James,

i was just reading an article from Railway News about a project to convert a Pacific into an atlantic.

Using the assorted locomotives from the Barry Scrap Yard the British preservation groups are really trying to fill in the gaps in steam preservation that presently exist.

they are not happy with restoring another loco from a class that already exists.

it is also interesting that there is almost universal interest in the pre- 1948 British Rail types. its a bit like being more interested in the Pennsy than Conrail.

since british locomotives were named right up to the end of steam they names them after some very interesting things. But the Saint class of I think the GWR is something; a coal fired steam engine is hardly Saintly! Perhaps rather going the other way?

Ted Miles

Author:  Kevin Gillespie [ Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:40 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

Ted Miles wrote:
James,


But the Saint class of I think the GWR is something; a coal fired steam engine is hardly Saintly! Perhaps rather going the other way?

Ted Miles


Ted,

With tongue planted firmly in cheek, I respectfully disagree. As I said on another thread, as I Catholic railfan, I think of smoke and steam from steam locomotives as incense and holy water.

Author:  Ted Miles [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 12:14 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: South African 4-8-4 in the UK, Red Devil

Kevin,

I too have been on the down wind side of a lot of insence in my younger days.

You have made an excellent analogy!

We have a steam triple header in this area this weekend. I will be attending at the alter of steam at the Niles Canyon Railway on Sunday!

Ted Miles

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