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| Author: | bobyar2001 [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | BLH demonstrator |
Is this the engine that later went to the Oregon & North Western and later still to the San Diego RR Museum? http://abpr.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi?f ... anColl.jpg |
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| Author: | engrbob [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 2:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
http://www.sdrm.org/roster/diesel/d-1/index.html If this link work, This is the locomotive at the Pacific Southwest Railway Museum. |
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| Author: | smokebox [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 4:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
This is not the same loco as the one at SDRM has roller bearings by the looks of the picture. The demo model pictured may in fact be the one owned by the Museum of Transport in MO, but for all intents abandoned in Tigard, OR. From what I've been told, it's a former Demo model, later O&NW. Smokebox |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 6:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
Negative, according to several sources here, including The Second Diesel Spotter's Guide by Pinkepank & Marre, which has this same Vollrath photo. According to P&M, "This unit became DSS&A [Duluth, South Shore & Atlanta] 211, later SOO 395 [sold to Soo along with the other seven AS-616's]. The trimount-style truck later was adapted on some of the last AS-616's delivered to PRR, C&O, and NdeM." This unit began life with the cast Commonwealth trucks. I'm not going to go in and analyze the SDRM loco at the moment, but I can say that quite a few present-day Baldwins have had roller bearings subbed for original journals. It's now about the only way such a loco will get from one railroad to another, if you think about it. |
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| Author: | Dennis Storzek [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 7:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
No, I think we are getting two different units mixed up here. Soo 395, ex DSS&A 211 was formerly BLH 1600, while the web site claims the O&NW engine was formerly BLH 1601. See http://sooline.dieselrosters.com/details.aspx?lineageId=100 for more data on the Soo engine. As I recall from a semi recent article about the South Shore's Baldwins in The SOO, the magazine of the Soo Line Historical & Technical Society, the locomotive came to the DSS&A in March 1952 with the tri-mount trucks, and there was some sort of financial arrangement between BLH and the railroad to reimburse them for keeping maintenance records that compared the 211 to other similar locos on the roster equipped with Commonwealth trucks. All the South Shore locomotives went to the Soo when the two roads (and Wisconsin Central) merged in 1961. The RS-1's kept their same numbers, but the Baldwins were all renumbered due to roster conflicts. |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Mon Jun 18, 2007 10:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
The other line from SDSG I didn't quote: "Baldwin-Lima-Hamilton demonstrator 1600 originally had Commonwealth trucks but they later were exchanged for the trimount-style truck while the unit was still operating as a demonstrator." Page BLW-304, Second Diesel Spotter's Guide........ I said nothing about BLH 1601........ |
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| Author: | Dennis Storzek [ Tue Jun 19, 2007 12:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: BLH demonstrator |
I was respnding to the message with link to the history of the O&NW loco on the SDRM web site. |
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