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Author:  Les Beckman [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 2:45 pm ]
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Here is a photo:

http://abpr2.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi? ... nw1111.jpg

No, not the famous ex-Timken 4-8-4 #1111, but one of the Chicago & NorthWestern's fleet of R-1 class Ten-Wheelers. This one was not preserved, but three others were, including oil-burning #444 at the Forney Museum in Colorado.

Would be interesting to know how many locomotives numbered 1111 were out there. I think I recall an 0-6-0 off of either the ACL or SAL, but I may be wrong on that. Of course, when the Timken 1111 was eventually sold to the Northern Pacific, the NP renumbered her 2626. Although some efforts were made to save her, she eventually succumbed to the scrappers torch.

Les

Author:  Gary Gray [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 3:49 pm ]
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Southern Ry 1111, also a 4-6-0.

http://southern.railfan.net/images/arch ... on114.html

Author:  Dennis Storzek [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 4:57 pm ]
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Not steam, but Milwaukee Electric interurban car 1111, also known as "the four aces":

Image

And:

Image

Four aces on the right.

Author:  steamerdon [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 6:33 pm ]
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Don't know if anybody out there is interested, but there is a Timken Roller Bearing Co. (1930) promotiional booklet on the Timken Four Aces locomotive available on eBay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=011

Author:  John Bohon [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 7:33 pm ]
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Western Maryland's first huge I-2 class decapod was number 1111. With 96,000 pounds of tractive effort I suspect this four aces had more tractive effort than any of the others. Unfortunately, niether she nor any of her sisters survived.

John Bohon

Author:  Les Beckman [ Tue Dec 11, 2007 9:57 pm ]
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John -

And the WM's I-2 class heavy 2-10-0's were absolutely great looking locomotives too!

Les

Author:  Frisco1522 [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 12:19 am ]
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Frisco had a 4-6-0 numbered 1111.

Author:  Frank Hicks [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Dennis Storzek wrote:
Not steam, but Milwaukee Electric interurban car 1111, also known as "the four aces"


...and today at the Illinois Railway Museum:

Image

It's not actually the "real" 1111 though, just an incredible illusion! Back in IRM's less-than-perfectly-accurate days one member repainted car 1129, which never wore the speed-stripe livery, as car 1111 for some reason. Prioritization in the years since has meant that it was never undone. The two "TM" cars in the photo, 1129 and 1135, were IRM's second and third cars.

Author:  Richard W. [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 2:03 pm ]
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The Northern Pacific also had a #1111, an Alco built 0-6-0, Class L-9.

Richard Wilkens

Author:  PRRK4s [ Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:20 pm ]
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The PRR had several 1111's over the years. The last being an H9s 2-8-0.

Author:  Don C. [ Thu Dec 13, 2007 11:19 am ]
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The CB&Q had a #1111 also......an 1892 Rogers-built 2-6-0. She was retired in July 1919 and probably melted-down for re-use in Henry Ford's Model T flivvers which were all the rage at that time......

Don C.

Author:  Les Beckman [ Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:49 pm ]
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Another one:

http://abpr2.railfan.net/abprphoto.cgi? ... KVColl.jpg

Taken at Rainelle, West Virginia September, 1948. This might be a class K-1. Anyone know for sure?

Les

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