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Author:  Gregslaton [ Wed Feb 20, 2008 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  KCS shiny cabooses

KCS had 42 stainless steel cabooses built during the 60's by Darby Railcar.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=770521

These are the known locations of those that still exist:

333 Simmesport, LA on display
334 Salt Lake City, UT Promontory Chapter NRHS
335 Huntsville, AL privately owned
337 DeRidder, LA depot museum on display
340 DeQuincy, LA privately owned
342 Kellogg, TX privately owned
343 Shreveport, LA privately owned
344 Gonzales, LA CofC on display
348 Pineville, LA privately owned
352 last seen scrapyard Kansas City 2002
357 Kirkwood, MO miniature golf course office

Anyone know of any others. Very unique. Hard to mistake for something else.

Greg

Author:  Gregslaton [ Tue Feb 26, 2008 5:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: KCS shiny cabooses

KCS had some cabooses that weren't so shiny too!

There are three at Musgokee, OK(numbers unknown) that probably came by way of DQ&E/TO&E(wooden, bay window, outside braced). They are used as storage at Klutt's Railroad Equipment, a supplier of track equipment. Klutts is not very responsive. Anyone have contacts there?

Three have gone away without being identified.....anyone ever take a photo of the one that used to be at the Baton Rouge State Fairgrounds(donated by KCS to BR Jaycees)........or the one that became part of Victoria Station in New Orleans(KCS donated it to WYES-TV PBS fundraiser auction in the 70's and restaurant developers got it from there).......there was a wooden bay window cab on the roof of a rail themed restaurant in Shreveport called T.S. Station, last seen down in the parking lot after the restaurant closed, repainted in a tropical looking motif, looking like it was off to serve another purpose somewhere

Dierks Forests purchased several KCS cabooses and a business car for their DeQueen and Eastern/Texas, Oklahoma & Eastern operations(the business car was obtained to use as a fishing cabin on Lake Greeson). Anyone know of any wayward DQ&E/TO&E cabooses that you may not recognize as being KCS?

Author:  Les Beckman [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 12:26 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: KCS shiny cabooses

Gregslaton wrote:
KCS had 42 stainless steel cabooses built during the 60's by Darby Railcar.

http://www.rrpicturearchives.net/showPi ... ?id=770521

These are the known locations of those that still exist:

333 Simmesport, LA on display
334 Salt Lake City, UT Promontory Chapter NRHS
335 Huntsville, AL privately owned
337 DeRidder, LA depot museum on display
340 DeQuincy, LA privately owned
342 Kellogg, TX privately owned
343 Shreveport, LA privately owned
344 Gonzales, LA CofC on display
348 Pineville, LA privately owned
352 last seen scrapyard Kansas City 2002
357 Kirkwood, MO miniature golf course office

Anyone know of any others. Very unique. Hard to mistake for something else.

Greg


Greg -

I recall seeing a KCS bay window caboose at the museum in Atchison, Kansas when I visited there last year. Don't recall now, if it was one of the stainless cabooses or not.

Les

Author:  caboose9 [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 2:27 pm ]
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KCS 400.



"I saw a KCS bay window caboose at the museum in Atchison, KS." Les

Author:  davew833 [ Thu Mar 06, 2008 6:37 pm ]
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I can confirm that #334 is in Salt Lake City as of today. Funny- I work just blocks from where it is located and I've never noticed it before. It is half- hidden behind a building, though.

Author:  Gregslaton [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: KCS shiny cabooses

KCS 400-406 were built about 1976 and were the last cabooses purchased new by the railroad. They were off the shelf steel bay window cabs, painted white with yellow-gold lettering. They probably bought them to replace various units that had been lost over the years(i.e. In 1976, I saw one of the silver stainless steel cabooses at the Pittsburg, KS shops that had been involved in a major fender bender....looked like Godzilla had been playing with it).

400 is at the museum in Atchison, KS
401 is at a museum in Oil City, LA(painted red)

The other 5 are in question as to whether or not they exist.

The KCS claims they own no cabooses. However we have all seen the two they use in the Holiday Express(former ICG cabs that came to them from Gateway Western or MidSouth)

405 has been inside of a refinery in the Beaumont area for over 10 years(used as a shoving platform). It gets photographed once and awhile when it gets parked out by the gate.

406 has been in the East St Louis area for several years, used as a shoving platform for the industries there(photographed many times on the web)
When the KCS trace was available, last entry for 404 showed it going to the Jackson, MS area. 402 showed traveling back and forth from Shreveport to Haughton, LA several times. It may be hiding in the Shreveport shop.

KCS, in the last few years has renumbered their yard slugs into the "400" series" which really messes things up. Was I tracing a yard slug or a caboose?

Its hard to find a caboose hiding within a plant site. KCS used to switch the Boise Cascade plant at DeRidder, LA....they kept a wooden outside braced bay window cab there....its still there....they left it behind when the contract went to WATCO.

I thought I had found 403 a while back.......until I realized I was on a website that deals with imaginary railroads that only exist on the internet.......an imaginary railroad in Wisconsin bought KCS 403 to use on imaginary grain trains to the Gulf. Good grief!

Author:  Les Beckman [ Fri Mar 07, 2008 3:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: KCS shiny cabooses

Gregslaton wrote:
The KCS claims they own no cabooses. However we have all seen the two they use in the Holiday Express(former ICG cabs that came to them from Gateway Western or MidSouth)

Its hard to find a caboose hiding within a plant site. KCS used to switch the Boise Cascade plant at DeRidder, LA....they kept a wooden outside braced bay window cab there....its still there....they left it behind when the contract went to WATCO.


Greg - Do you happen to know the KCS numbers of the ex-ICG cabooses? Or what their numbers were on the Illinois Central Gulf?

As for the wooden outside braced bay window caboose at the Boise Cascade plant in DeRidder, was this one of those cabooses converted from old box cars? What were the number series of those cabooses on the KCS?

Thanks.

Les

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