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http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2
lamontdc@adelphia.net

> Check this out for some good deals

I remember we did something on the Boeing cars back in the L&RP days. It appeared to me that these were a project to employ laid-off aircraft engineers, who started with the question "Streetcar? What's that?


bobyar2001@yahoo.com

Why does that not surprize me! There still is a lot of "change for change sake" and associated buzzwords and boy can that get expensive!


http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2
lamontdc@adelphia.net

The newspaper article is correct; the Western railway Museum that is preserving lots of San Francisco equipment is not going to take any of these loosers.

That is to say that that a Light Rail Vehicle may not go into the collection some day. For example. the Sacramento RT has some of their cars due to retire and there are lots of spare parts to keep a car running.

The Bredas are wonderful by the way, I wish that I can ride one to work rather than a Dismal bus.
There should be additional news about SF street cars soon! TM


ted_miles@NPS.gov

At least one should be cast into a large cube of plexiglas and placed suchthat it will be a reminder to the politicos.

Getting lightrail established is hard enough without scenerios like that ... geeze they even got me saying light rail, I don't even like light beer! ...STREETCARS ... how archaic!


lamontdc@adelphia.net

> The newspaper article is correct; the
> Western railway Museum that is preserving
> lots of San Francisco equipment is not going
> to take any of these loosers.

If so, then WRM is being negligent in it's Mission Statment to preserve electric rail transportation of the west.

Gosh, I sure hope you don't think a museum should accept something into its collection simply because it is available and within its field of collecting. It is better to have a few well-preserved and cared for artifacts than many more that are poorly cared for...

--Richard

> If so, then WRM is being negligent in it's
> Mission Statment to preserve electric rail
> transportation of the west.


Northwest Railway Museum
rra@trainmuseum.org

Ability to care for the collection should be part of the decision making process. Also part of the decision making process should be the value of the artifact to serving the mission statement. Also wheather the artifact is preserved eleswhere, etc.

To reject a railroad artifact because it cannot be operated or would be difficult to keep operating seems to point to wanting to operate and not preserve.

To reject a railroad artifact because it replaced the cars or engines that the leaders of a museum think are significant seems to point to a limited view of history and technology.

Brian Norden


bnorden49@earthlink.net

> I remember we did something on the
> Boeing cars back in the L&RP days.

I recall that article (and wondering just what
it was doing in L&RP. ). The author went through a list of problems with the car, stating stuff like the trucks were prone to derailments and the controllers burned out frequently and the doors didn't close and the frame was weak. (I'm going from memory, these may not be accurate)

In any case, once I got done reading the article my first thought was "Well what DID work on these lemons?!?" Maybe the seats I guess, other than that it sounds like the whole thing fell apart rapidly.)

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