Does anyone who went to the auction have any photos or comments about the condition of this car? Are the windows / interior intact? Was this car in excursion service at the end?

Thanks for any help,

David Farlow
Whitewater Valley Railroad

David,

I don't believe this car was used the last year or two that the railroad operated. Going by memory, I think it had been in m/w service when it came to Knox & Kane, and they put seats of some sort back in it. The vestibule dutch doors (lower sections only) are sheets of plywood.

Alan Maples

David -

Is the ex-NYC coach (K&K #215) a heavyweight? Any photos?

Les

Les,

This is the only photo I've managed to find. I was hoping that someone might have been a "shutterbug" at the auction and took some that were a little more detailed of the interior / exterior.

http://naphotos.nerail.org/showpic/?pho ... %26%20Kane

Alan, I appreciate the note about the dutch doors as the originals would have been full doors. We are trying to evaluate some options on this car.

David Farlow
Whitewater Valley Railroad

Would this have been a Boston & Albany commuter coach at one time?

It started life as a "B&A humpback" as they were called, and then I think this one went to D&H in the late 50s, for Albany-area commuter service. If the K&K obtained this car from D&H, that is.

There was another one of these that went B&A-NYS&W-private railfan ownership (including the "Otter Valley" in Vermont), and seems to have been washed ashore in the Mohawk & Hudson Chapter flotsam & jetsom.

These were the cars that the NYC and Henry Dreyfuss used to make the streamlined 1936 "Mercury" train.

Howard P.
Old Roster Hollow, CT

Howard,

There's one in Lincoln, NH as well. And it is for sale.

The car Lance Burak and Leslie Holloway started the Cafe Lafayette dinner train with was a humpback NYC commuter car. It is still on their roster, though it is no longer the only car they have.

According to this site, the operation is for sale for $1.1 million.

http://www.polimenorealty.com/nh_businesses_for_sale_listings.php

When I last rode, the car and the food were top notch.

Rob Davis

[quote="robertjohndavis"]Howard,
There's one in Lincoln, NH as well. And it is for sale.

If the number is correct, that is the 221, formerly Steamtown Foundation (ex-D&H) coach that languished in the North End of Riverside for many years. The other two ex-D&H cars (222, 223) were sold off when the TN&O(?) 4-6-0 was sold in 1981 to an outfit in Texas, I think.

I always found the 221 interesting, glad to see it survived the Vermont Auction.

Does anyone have a list of the Steamtown Foundation equipment auctioned off in Vermont in the 80's?

Romi Romano

I see the K&K had at least one other car #217 back in 2002, but I'm guessing its long gone.
The car at Colonie is either Otter Creek #3 or #9, depending on which side you look at!

Is there any chance that #217 came from the Gettysburg operation? They apparently had an Erie 2600 series Stillwell and a former B&A coach there at one point, they were once advertised for sale.

David Farlow