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Author:  Sloan [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Fresno, CA; trolleys once diners, now office
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Author:  Ted Miles [ Mon Feb 23, 2009 6:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Fresno, CA; trolleys once diners, now office
Fresno Traction is represented in both of the California traction museums.

The Orange Empire Railway Museum has a body of one of the Dragon cars. I do not have their roster right in front of me.

And the Western Railway Museum has a couple of bodies of Fresno Birney cars #52 and 56. In fact the museum recently obtained a Birney truck for the second one.

The museum's third Birney car is complete and operational; the Sacramento Northern's Chico car #63.

Interesting to see a diner made from trolley cars rather than main line rail cars.

Ted Miles
Author:  Brian Norden [ Tue Feb 24, 2009 1:02 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Fresno, CA; trolleys once diners, now office
Orange Empire has bodies of two former Fresno streetcars.

It has Fresno "dragon" #51. This car had post-streetcar use so the raised portions of the floor are removed leaving the central portion of its floor and then all of the the sides (with cracked yellow paint and darker lining) and the roof. These cars didn't have a underframe and the main structural members were in the roof and the truss side framing.

OERM also the body of PE #152 double truck safety car (Birney style) up on regauged ex-Toronto trucks. This car came to the PE from Fresno where it was #83.

Just about every time I go through Fresno I stop and take at least one photo of the former streetcar cafe. A couple blocks away is a cafe in a modern steel building that the last time I saw it was still painted to look like a Santa Fe box car with the large herald. This industrial part of town has many interesting things.
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