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 Post subject: Locomotive erection shops (Baldwin, Alco, Cook, etc) modelin
PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:32 pm 

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Hi,

I'm not even sure where to post this question so forgive me if it seems inappropriate here.

I am designing and building some HO scale model locomotives (PRR E2B, E3B, E2C, DD1, B1 and HOn3/HOn30 0-4-4-0) for limited production. The E2B and the 0-4-4-0 are closes to being complete.

I was going to set up a test track when I realized I had stored away a Walthers 90' turntable, a Concor/Heljan roundhouse (enough for 6 stalls), a Walthers transfer table (and extension) and a Walthers back shop kit.

I think I could make a nice little layout/diorama showing a locomotive works.

1) Where can I find a few photos for the type of buildings used at one of the many locomotive works?

2) What HO scale models might be fairly close to the style of building?

I think it would be neat to be able to take a 4'x8' layout/diorama to train shows and have electrics, steam locos of HO, HOn3, and HOn30 on it.

Thanks.

Doug vV
www.dougsrrshop.com
Glover Locomotive Works - Division of Doug's Railroad Shop
http://www.dougsrrshop.com/model%20pics ... eworks.htm


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive erection shops (Baldwin, Alco, Cook, etc) modelin
PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2010 9:20 am 

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Glovers is prety close to you, and appropriate for the mix including oddball narrow gage stuff. Dick Hillman is a good starting source.

dave

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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive erection shops (Baldwin, Alco, Cook, etc) modelin
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Glover was very close. I was inside the building once. Glover did not have a turntable or transfer table.

I have started CAD drawings for Glover #81418 (a 3' gauge 2-6-0) for an eventual HOn3/HOn30 locomotive model.

However I was hoping to find some model buildings that could be used for the layout. The only one I can think of was an old AHM N scale factory building that had door so that cars could be switched into the building.

I just can not recall what the model was called. If I remember correctly, it looked similar to the Glover's building.

Thanks for the help.

Doug vV


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive erection shops (Baldwin, Alco, Cook, etc) modelin
PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 12:10 am 

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Here are some links that might help.

http://limalocomotiveworks.com/

http://wnyrails.org/cities/dunkirk/brooks.htm

http://wnyrails.org/cities/dunkirk/brooks_postcards.htm

http://wnyrails.org/cities/dunkirk/dunkirk.htm

http://wnyrails.org/cities/dunkirk/display.htm

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl= ... s%3Disch:1

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/e ... -03-28.jpg

An item to remember is that a locomotive works is a factory, one to produce very large machinery. It is not a locomotive servicing facility--hence a roundhouse or turntable would normally be very rare, although turntables show up in 1900-era or so photos at Alco and Baldwin.

Hope these links help out.


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 Post subject: Re: Locomotive erection shops (Baldwin, Alco, Cook, etc) modelin
PostPosted: Sun Mar 07, 2010 4:24 pm 

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Sometimes you got to wait until your brain cells get tickled to remember something.

In this case, the thing to remember was a book, "Lima, The History," by Eric Hirsimaki, originally printed by Hundman Publishing in 1985 and reprinted a couple of times since then. This excellent history of the Lima Locomotive & Machine Company has many photographs taken at Lima by company photographer Don Jardine, and among these are a number of shots, some in fairly large format, of just scenes around the Lima works, with all manner of parts, stock materials, locomotive tenders, and so on visible. Besides being an excellent read and having a Lima delivery roster (which includes export orders), these photos would be of considerable value for you in detailing your model.

Unfortunately, owner Bob Hundman turned out, as is often the case, to be a very skilled craftsman but not the best businessman in the world, and so Hundman Publishing is virtually shut down, despite having done some magnificent publishing and printing work in the past. Some copies are still available at this site; you may want to get one while you can. The book is somewhat pricey at just over $50.00, but it's not bad for what you get, and the way these things often go, the price will go up later--if you can find a copy at all.

http://www.goldenspike.us/?page=shop/br ... ry_id=8596

http://www.discounttrainsonline.com/Vid ... 065_1.html

Good luck--which we all need. . .


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