Finally olde number 52 gets a paint job

Trevor Heath · **Posted:** Sat Jul 05, 2014 10:24 pm

https://scontent-a-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hph ... 3414_n.jpg

Brian Norden · **Posted:** Sat Jul 05, 2014 11:36 pm

Which railroad?

It looks like it might be WP&YR #52 that was moved some years ago to the shops for at least a cosmetic fixing.

boilerwash · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 2:07 pm

Quote:

Which railroad?
It looks like it might be WP&YR #52 that was moved some years ago to the shops for at least a cosmetic fixing.

According to steamlocomotive.com its WP&Y and has a "before" picture.

http://steamlocomotive.com/mogul/wpy52-frederick.jpg

philip.marshall · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 4:22 pm

Is WP&Y 52 still missing the middle driver on the engineer's side?

http://steamlocomotive.info/locomotives/ak22.jpg

joe6167 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 5:37 pm

how does one lose a wheel?

J3a-614 · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:03 pm

joe6167 wrote:

how does one lose a wheel?

Don't know how that happened with the 52, but she has one now.

https://www.facebook.com/WhitePassRailr ... =1&theater

https://www.facebook.com/WhitePassRailr ... =1&theater

How much else of the engine is still around? I don't see a tender, and no rods, either.

By any chance, was this a locomotive used in a fill at some point? That could explain many of the missing key parts.

wilkinsd · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:03 pm

joe6167 wrote:

how does one lose a wheel?

Axle fracture. I believe it happened to a locomotive that was on the Georgetown Loop in the recent past, I think the Baldwin that came to GLRR from South Dakota.

philip.marshall · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:26 pm

I'm glad to see they fixed it! It really detracted from the appearance of what is otherwise an elegant little engine.

Number 52 was built by Brooks in 1881 for the Utah & Northern, but I understand there is some disagreement among historians as to her construction number and original U&N road number. She was sent north to Alaska sometime prior to 1900.

Dave · **Posted:** Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:42 pm

wilkinsd wrote:

joe6167 wrote:

how does one lose a wheel?

Axle fracture. I believe it happened to a locomotive that was on the Georgetown Loop in the recent past, I think the Baldwin that came to GLRR from South Dakota.

That depends on your definition of recent.....much has happened since, and it is much improved.

The axle fractured as a result of a midwestern contractor having welded the hub liner onto the axle during an overhaul according to what I was told when I was trying to pick up the pieces years ago. There was a lot of confusion from another contractor at the time who misread keyways covered with paint as defects in the axles, but that's another story....and a good object lesson in the wisdom of cleaning to bare metal before doing NDT.

Committees of ignorant political people who are dependent on others who have knowledge but also self serving agendas of their own should not be making decisions about real life conditions. It creates a lot of unnecessary confusion and the perception that everything is a crisis.

dave

wilkinsd · **Posted:** Mon Jul 07, 2014 12:03 pm

Dave wrote:

wilkinsd wrote:

joe6167 wrote:

how does one lose a wheel?

Axle fracture. I believe it happened to a locomotive that was on the Georgetown Loop in the recent past, I think the Baldwin that came to GLRR from South Dakota.

That depends on your definition of recent.....much has happened since, and it is much improved.

The axle fractured as a result of a midwestern contractor having welded the hub liner onto the axle during an overhaul according to what I was told when I was trying to pick up the pieces years ago. There was a lot of confusion from another contractor at the time who misread keyways covered with paint as defects in the axles, but that's another story....and a good object lesson in the wisdom of cleaning to bare metal before doing NDT.

Committees of ignorant political people who are dependent on others who have knowledge but also self serving agendas of their own should not be making decisions about real life conditions. It creates a lot of unnecessary confusion and the perception that everything is a crisis.

dave

Dave, I wasn't try to lay blame on anyone, I was just giving an example of how such a thing can happen in the real world. By "recent past" I meant in the preservation era.

610BS · **Joined:** Mon Jan 09, 2006 4:37 pm **Posts:** 65

51 and 52 recovered from WP&YR's Taku Tram in 1963 and returned to Skagway for display. Tender is in Skagway yard, I believe torched by vandals.