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| Author: | car57 [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 9:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | car 57 fabulous discovery |
Hi to all Well today we had breakfast in the car cooked on our stove to make things more comfortable in the car, we also made a wonderful discovery on the outside. We are concentrating now on the fire damaged west end as this takes a real beating from the wind, low and beholsd we find gold leaf either side of the doorway underneath the gold lining is more gold lining until we uncover some beautiful scroll work, unseen since at least 1899. We also fitted the original windows we found back in their as found positions. One of those really good days See the pictures at http://mikepannell254.fotopic.net/c1599811_193.html One question.. do any records exist for the Gilbert car company of Troy NY ? Cheers Mike |
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| Author: | robertjohndavis [ Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
That's just plain cool! Thank you for keeping us updated. Was this car built by Gilbert? Rob |
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| Author: | car57 [ Fri Jan 15, 2010 1:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
Hi No this is a Pullman product but the new 1866 car weve found here is an unknown builder but new to Wagners, so could be a Gilbert car. Mike |
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| Author: | Ted Miles [ Sat Jan 16, 2010 2:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
Folks, We have a pair of 1887 Gilbert Car Company built New York elevated cars at the Western Railway Museum. I ask around and see if anyone has heard of any of their paper surviving. The Mid-Continent railroad Museum has a great historical write up and archive of wooden car builders on their web site. You can find some information there about Gilbert. I do not think that they lasted very long. The Shoreline Trolley Museum has another elevated car which is also from that builder. Ted Miles |
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| Author: | Bob Hall [ Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
Great find, Mike. I haven't been that lucky with our car, but we did find on the underneath of the end platform canopy, examples of the original Deep Purple Brown paint. Being where it was meant there was no sun-induced fade, so we have a really good match. I'm interested to see your end door is rectangular, whereas ours has a curved top. Is that normal for American-built Pullmans? Cheers, Bob |
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| Author: | car57 [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
Bob, Which car are you restoring? The curved door was an earlier design, most of the manufacturers went over to square doors and frames by the mid/late 1880's at least uf you consult photos it appears that way. Mike |
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| Author: | Bob Hall [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: car 57 fabulous discovery |
Mike, 1901-vintage Australian built, but based on cars imported from Pullman in 1891. Those cars definitely had the curved tops, as we scavenged one from a derelict American-built car a few years ago (and it fitted perfectly!) Pics can be seen at bobhall998.fotopic.net Cheers, Bob |
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