I like it when it matches the equipment...
http://www.davesrailpix.com/cae/htm/cae061.htm
http://www.trainweb.org/fredatsf/sf41.htm
(About the City of San Francisco)
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| Author: | tomgears [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 12:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | RJ Corman Varnish |
This is the car mentioned in an earlier thread. http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.p ... 19&nseq=35 |
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| Author: | Randolph R. Ruiz [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
This photo is further evidence in support of my strongly held belief that railroad logos should not include images of trains. Otherwise, we end up seeing trains with images of trains on them, and that is just kinda sad (and post-modern). |
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| Author: | Ed Kapuscinski [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 11:03 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
I agree. Those Fs always look weird, and because the stroke is so light on them, they really become just blobs from any distance. It took me a while to finally realize what they were. I had, for the longest time, thought they were just "wings". |
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| Author: | Dennis Storzek [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
That's 'cause modern trains are so goofy looking that they need pictograms on them so people can tell what they are. |
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| Author: | Alexander D. Mitchell IV [ Tue Jan 19, 2010 1:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
Let's remember that RJ Corman started out as a rail-construction and derailment-cleanup contractor, not a railroad operating company. In that context, the official company logo, usually seen on the side of trucks and heavy equipment, made perfect sense. |
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| Author: | Wowak [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
san-serif fonts never look right to me on steam locomotives or passenger equipment. |
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| Author: | o anderson [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 11:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
I like it when it matches the equipment... http://www.davesrailpix.com/cae/htm/cae061.htm http://www.trainweb.org/fredatsf/sf41.htm (About the City of San Francisco) |
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| Author: | robertmacdowell [ Wed Jan 20, 2010 5:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
I agree... sans-serif fonts have their place... art-deco, for instance, or anything related to Union Pacific :) It could actually be worse. It could be a bad imitation of one of the nation's great railroad paint schemes. (either reproduce it faithfully with only the lettering changed... or be the D&H.) |
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| Author: | Wowak [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
robertmacdowell wrote: I agree... sans-serif fonts have their place... art-deco, for instance, or anything related to Union Pacific :) Yeah, Art-deco is pretty much the exception that proves the rule when it comes to san-serif on passenger equipment. |
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| Author: | Randolph R. Ruiz [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
It is not the typeface or the color. There is good design and bad design. This is the latter. It takes a lot more than picking the proper font to come up with something good. The good news is that paint is less then skin-deep, but if I recall, the reason this link was posted was to illustrate the current condition of what had been an intact C&O business car. |
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| Author: | rjenkins [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 11:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
Alexander D. Mitchell IV wrote: Let's remember that RJ Corman started out as a rail-construction and derailment-cleanup contractor, not a railroad operating company. In that context, the official company logo, usually seen on the side of trucks and heavy equipment, made perfect sense. Looks to me more like he started out in HO scale with some off-the-shelf Letraset transfers and some clip art. Too bad he didn't consult a professional designer when he made the jump to 12-inch-to-the-foot scale, but ultimately I guess it's his equipment and he can paint and letter it as he pleases. |
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| Author: | boilerwash [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
****but ultimately I guess it's his equipment and he can paint and letter it as he pleases.**** If you think thats horrible take a look at this. Attachment: rjcormansteam.jpg [ 255.97 KiB | Viewed 8332 times ] |
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| Author: | Kevin Gilliam [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
boilerwash wrote: ****but ultimately I guess it's his equipment and he can paint and letter it as he pleases.**** If you think thats horrible take a look at this. Oh come on, it's just the Chinese version of a N&W J! ;) |
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| Author: | Mark Jordan [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
Dear Group: Understand that Sir Corman is a businessman, and wants his name out there (advertisement). Simply a business decision without regard to style. He wants fluff & flair, and only fluff & flair.........history be damned. The sooner eveyone knows and accepts this fact, the easier life will become..... |
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| Author: | Dave [ Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: RJ Corman Varnish |
RJC - simply by purchasing and running his QJs - has done more to celebrate the essential history of railroading than most other railroads, who would be very pleased to never look back and concentrate on real estate dveelopment and shoving short hauls off their mainlines onto highways so the more profitable unit trains can get through on minimal track miles. His business isn't operating a museum or art gallery. Measuring him by those yardsticks is absurd. Thanking him for putting some of his resources into being a railroader and not just a financier is very appropriate. Stop whining about meaningless trivia and support his efforts. Remember "Pidcock Lines", "Plant System", Flagler Line"? dave |
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